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mid layer hoody for under my shell...

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I'm on the look out for an insulated hoody to wear as a mid-layer between my merino base and shell jacket. Should also be wind-proof to wear as an outer on nice spring skiing days.

Long sleeves and not too baggy a fit are a must. Even better if it has thumbholes in the sleeves.

Any recommendations?
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won't the hood be a complete PITA trying to fit it under a jacket or have it flapping about outside absorbing snow etc?

Better to have a microfleece layer IMHO....
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i have midlayers that don't have a hood. I'm looking for one with a hood that will offer some insulation against the elements when the wind & cold pick up.
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Saw this one in Cotswold Outdoor yesterday, looked neat, not cheap though.
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interesting link Colin B, but I still stand by my point that it will be PITA. I've tried putting an outer coat over a hoody when out walking the dog and don't find it comfortable at all.

What's wrong with carrying a hat? won't flap around and won't aid snow down the neck in a fall or if it's dumping!!!
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If you want something nice and cosy I suggest you look for one made from Polartec Power Stretch:

http://www.polartec.com/#/comfort/power-stretch/

I suggest you avoid anything made of Windstopper which I find cold and clammy.

Some info:
http://www.mountainadventurecompany.com/index.php/eng/content/download/374/2338/file/Soft%20shells,fleece.pdf

I have one of these and it's snuggly!



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oooo. that looks very nice Colin B, thanks for the link. even has the thumb loops and i know the brand fits me.

will have a look in their store at the weekend.

kitenski, back to the hood thing... would that not mean that all jackets with a hood are a PITA for the same reason?
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shoogly wrote:
kitenski, back to the hood thing... would that not mean that all jackets with a hood are a PITA for the same reason?


no, because the hood is already on the outside, I think by what you are proposing the hoody would be under the jacket, so you either have to tuck it inside the jacket, or have it outside, with a high ski jacket collar over it. which then will let snow in and be uncomfortable IMHO

If you have a hoody, put it on, then put your ski jacket on, maybe it's just me Laughing
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What you need is one of these:


Seriously, I have an unhooded cow version which I wear under my drysuit for kayaking, best thermal I've ever used, £8 form primark. They even double as fancy dress costumes:



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the patagonia R1 hoody is a fleece version of what you are after but isn't windproof. it's a great bit of kit albeit quite expensive
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I did have cut a pee slit into it though lol
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Three at silly prices imo
http://shop.packyourbags.com/acatalog/haglofs-yoyo-zip-hood-mens.html
http://www.rockrun.com/products/Rab-Shadow-Hoodie.html
http://www.urbanrock.com/products_detail.php?CatId=149&PId=1943



More sensible prices here
http://www.spikeoutdoors.co.uk/clothing/fleece
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this looks ideal...

thanks for the links people...

clarky999, you're nuts! i like it. Laughing
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clarky999, you're nuts! i like it.


Yeah, I went as Mad Cow Disease lol
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kitenski wrote:
shoogly wrote:
kitenski, back to the hood thing... would that not mean that all jackets with a hood are a PITA for the same reason?


no, because the hood is already on the outside, I think by what you are proposing the hoody would be under the jacket, so you either have to tuck it inside the jacket, or have it outside, with a high ski jacket collar over it. which then will let snow in and be uncomfortable IMHO

If you have a hoody, put it on, then put your ski jacket on, maybe it's just me Laughing

I'm with you, a hoody under a jacket is a right royal PITA.
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What about this: http://www.ellis-brigham.com/snowsports-clothing/quiksilver/308020/men%27s-aker-fleece-hoodie

Good price, thumb loops, hood, tailored fit. Ticks most of the boxes, except it isn't windproof, but combined with a decent baselayer would be a pretty good combo.

Nick
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I think I'd ditch the hood and use a hat.
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Wearing a windproof as a mid layer seriously inhibits transmission of moisture to the outer breathable layer... something to be aware of.
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I'm very happy with my Arcteryx Atom hoody which I wear under a loose fit soft shell on cold days. Keeps me warm without getting too hot. Breathability is fine with fabric side panels. Very lightweight and packs up small. I don't find the hood a PITA. It's also got enough shower and wind protection to use as a top layer on fine days. I think TNF and Patagonia do similar lightweight Primaloft products. Try one on. They are amazingly light and comfy.
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You guys with a hood combination issue simply need to dress in the right order: hoodie on, hood up, jacket on, hood up - then the bit that may be eluding you - both hoods down together. Nice and snug on the back of your neck, cosy hood when you need it. Doing up the drawcords stops it from being a snow scoop/ wind sock.

Admittedly it works best with a jacket with a full-time (non-detachable) hood but that's my preference anyway.
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sidey, I ski with a helmet on, 2 hoods are a PITA.
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What sidey said - one hood slots into the other. I wear a hooded Primaloft jacket under a hooded hard shell on cold days and have no problems with flapping or collecting snow. And its über cosy on windy chairlift rides.
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shoogly, I brought a great one in T K Maxx last month SOS is the make. I did not think I would wear it much but I've been wearing it most days. you never know if you try there you might get lucky.
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What about a Norrona Narvik Warm 3 Zip Hood really cosy for those cold chairlift rides, has a hood and thumb loops and uses polartec thermal pro fabric.http://www.ellis-brigham.com/fleeces/norrona/339009/men's-narvik-warm-3-zip-hood
i wouldnt be without mine! wink
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clarky999 wrote:
What you need is one of these:


Seriously, I have an unhooded cow version which I wear under my drysuit for kayaking, best thermal I've ever used, £8 form primark. They even double as fancy dress costumes:



wink


That is so far past creepy that I can feel my skin crawl Shocked Shocked Shocked
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clarky999, I'm in soll for xmas-new year hopefully. I'll meet you in brixen if you like what will you be wearing Puzzled
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I think that week I'll probably be working in Saalbach, will have to see nearer the time though. Lol not sure it would work for skiing (unless you use a one-piece suit), but for kayaking I use a full drysuit so a nice fleecy inner suit is really useful, and most of the 'kayaking' ones are upwards of £40, so as well as looking awesome (maybe) the primark one is pretty good value!
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Icebreaker power hood
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Arc'teryx Atom LT....
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sidey wrote:
You guys with a hood combination issue simply need to dress in the right order: hoodie on, hood up, jacket on, hood up - then the bit that may be eluding you - both hoods down together. Nice and snug on the back of your neck, cosy hood when you need it. Doing up the drawcords stops it from being a snow scoop/ wind sock.


sounds entirely reasonable to me... had a look at the narrona one at the weekend. it's very nice, but a tad expensive. Got a wee while to get sorted, but i am going to proceed with the plan, no matter what the doubters say Very Happy
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shoogly, peak performance do some nice mid layer hoodies, that can be worn on their own
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Looks like clarky999 was ahead of the times http://www.onepiece.co.uk/

They're even pimping these at S&R Shocked
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that's my christmas present right there
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Arno, post pics please Toofy Grin
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shoogly, weirdly, I now have 3 mid layer fleece hoodies (bought the 3rd 'cos I'd forgotten I'd bought the 1st. . . read the sig. rolling eyes ) The Reebok one is the nicest but it's made as US football clothing.
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