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rockyrobin, I suffer endlessly with blisters, sensitive feet you know, I use Compeed ....I assume they'd be just as good for shins?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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vitamin E cream
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Germolene! Dont know if it works but I put it on everything and im lurgi free!
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Nadenoodlee, My dog loves that
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rockyrobin,
For treatment I would leave well alone other than popping them. For prevention avoid rubbing where possible and where not have a non irritant fabric that doesn't retain water next to your skin.
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Cheers guys, looks like i've got option overload! I do wonder if I should just do what T Bar said and ride it out? Maybe popping some Compeed on if not better by Monday?
Problem I have is as soon as i've popped and drained them they fill back up within a couple of hours! Would I be better off trying to tear the skin off thats forming the baloon to allow the underneath to weep freely and hopefully dry out and scab?
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rockyrobin, that's what the compeed is good at, it protects and helps to dry up the weeping....don't pull of the skin whatever you do! Open's you up to infection and then you'll be in no end of trouble!!
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homphomp, Where do you get your Compeed from? Can I get this from the likes of Tesco?
Problem I'm having is even though I tear a small hole in the bottom of the bags of discharge, they seem to dry over and fill up without weeping unless I get the pin to them regularly. Would putting a larger tear in be advisable or would I be asking for trouble?
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This is by far one of the most minging threads ever seen on snowheads. CALL NHS 24 DAMMIT!!!
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Nadenoodlee wrote: |
Germolene! Dont know if it works but I put it on everything and im lurgi free! |
That's obviously how you cope with the chicken donners; chili and germolene sauce.
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You know it makes sense.
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rockyrobin, make a bigger tear so that the fluiid drains down and out. Use a nonadherent plaster over the top part of it to try to get the skin to adhere again, so that it acts as an endogenous dressing, but don't occlude it. Keep dry and watch for infection (cloudy fluid, increasing redness and pain). If it gets infected go to the doctor.
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rockyrobin, The last time I saw legs like that they had a message tied to them
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Poster: A snowHead
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richmond wrote: |
That's obviously how you cope with the chicken donners; chili and germolene sauce. |
I think I might be onto a winner there! Hmm now how about bongela-- mmm i could happily have tooth ache if i got to use that all the time.
Blisters are rancid- I had one post fag burn on my wrist and it was vile. If I wear flat shoes, I get them on my heels. I put germolene and a plaster on it an voila! Its healed enough for me to get my spray tan- hurrah. Germolene saves the day!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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rockyrobin, i was sort of building up to this but i couldn't recommend that you ski on it for at least a couple of weeks. If your life depended on it though (like mine sometimes does), get some granuflex, duoderm or comfeel of a suitable size and protect the whole blister to prevent shearing. They're all hydrocolloid (I think) and will produce a gungy non-offensive slime over the wound which is quite normal, can be safely left for a few days (despite appearances) and will actually help healing of unprotected areas of tissue. If it smells offensive, is painful, red etc etc consider infection - always see a medic rather than take the risk if unsure.
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Granuflex or Duoderm you may need to get on prescription, Comfeel you can buy over the counter.
(Rockinrobin, Pm me your address and I can send you some Duoderm)
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Linds, none of them or indeed any dressings I know of are PoM (prescription only medications).
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Shouldn't you just leave them alone and let your body heal itself? Aren't the blisters there for a reason?
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beanie1, you could do. More painful, slower resolution but less chance of infection. The body's response to trauma or indeed any insult isn' t always helpful. Sometimes it's being a pain as it's simply trying to prevent you causing more damage. Sometimes it can't help it - large haematomas. Sometimes it over-reacts - excessive oedema, compartment syndrome, over-granulation, excessive bone callus etc. And not trauma related but look at the whole field of autoimmune and allergic disease.
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Two comments,
Firstly you are treating the symptom, not the cause, you need to find out what is causing those blisters and fix it, so they don't re-occur. I used to have sore front shins, when I got new boots the guys at precision said the flex point in my old boots was at the wrong area, causing pressure in my shin, new boots that fitted solved the issue!
I also thought that you should leave well alone and not pop them. Just checked my medical book:
"new skin develops beneath the blister, the fluid is gradually absorbed, and the top layer of skin dries and peels away. If the skin is broken, or if the blistered site is likely to be damaged further, you should protect the area with a dry, sterile dressing. You should not prick a blister to release the fluid because the skin acts as a barrier against infection. If the blisters are filled with pus or you notice spreading redness in the surrounding skin consult your docter."
regards,
Greg
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rockyrobin, What sliding were u doing to get leg blisters?
I have to have my spray tan otherwise i'll be the palest person at the wedding! - these are Glaswegians after all!
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A good leg wax, and then rub 3 times a day with surgical spirit.
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rockyrobin, a freind of my brothers has similar problems with his legs. One year at St Anton he was talking to the Hotel owner, an ex World Cup racer himself, and found it was a very common problem.
This lead my brothers mate to develop a very thin sheet of polymer that sticks onto your shins (sort of armoured skin) to protect the skin and blisters while you ski. If you go on Monday I'll try and find the sample he gave me and you can try it out.
Oh, if I had legs like those I wouldn't post them for the world to see either
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gregh, Funny you should mention boots. I went into my local shop yesterday and the guy in there said that some Salomon boots had flex problems. I have a pair of kids race boots that the shells were the right size but the liners didn't suit me so I relegated them to the wardrobe. He recommended I try my foam liners in the these kids boots as they should have a more even progressive flex, and when I got home this did bear out. So fingers crossed next slide time will see if the kiddies boots do the trick.
With the Salomons it appears that if you try to have the top buckles even moderately tight as you should then the front cuffs have pulled together making the clearance between upper and lower front shell too tight and so stiffening the boots.
The only way round this was to have a booster strap fitted, foamed liners, and wear them with buckles lightly snapped shut and have the booster strap nice and tight inside the shell so that it was used to pull the spine forward instead of relying on the front of the cuffs to pull. This seemed to work but was allowing my shins to slide up and down the tongue of the liner, so when really powering the cuffs while trying to push skis that were too stiff for me I was making me some blisters
I guess your right about leaving well alone but they were getting so bloated with fluid it was like having a couple of little baloons on my legs. It would have only been a matter of time before they got knocked and burst anyway.
Nadenoodlee, I think the sliding that caused it was my comical attempt at demoing some Metron B5's which I clearly did not have a good enough technique to deal with due to my lack of body weight combined with my quirky boots. I spent all evening powering the cuffs of my boots in an attempt to get them to come alive for me. Yesterday when I was back on my little skis was just icing on the cake for the blisters as my shins were already red and I ignored them and now am paying the price of stupidity I guess
You go careful with that spray tan. We don't want you going to that wedding looking like a well cooked Wall's Pork Sausage! Shouldn't worry about being pale skinned, some of us guys do like women with pale skin you know and i'm sure you'll look great regardless.
Frosty the Snowman, Are you saying that waxing the area of the shins would help prevent this reoccuring?
I'd have to do the whole legs...... and then probably other areas to not look funny. Could be quite a chore. I hope your kidding
I don't think I could live with smooth shiny legs like your suggesting. I think my friends would think there's something funny going on
marc gledhill, Thanks for the kind offer to help me out with some plastic skin. Sounds like it would be ideal.
You been talking to Spyderjon, what are you trying to say about my legs? You feel I should be hiding them from view or something?
Look forward to seeing you on Monday so I can tackle you about making fun of my legs
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rockyrobin, Thank you, have tried and tested this spray tan and its ace! so im quite looking forward to it! I have a peach coloured frock so if im not tanned i'll look awful especially as bf has just come back from Milan and is golden brown ( git). Pale = ill looking
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rockyrobin, He's not kidding - I've know quite a few men who do this. Less hair = less rubbing possibility. Surgical spirit helps to harden the skin in question, but neither of these should be attempted with open blisters!! (ouch!!)
Seriously, sore shins are a very common problem, and may be one reason why so many holliday skiers lean back. I find that the "mousse" (latex foam as previously mentioned) really does help a great many people. It's prevention though, not cure. slikedges, or Linds might be able to tell us if it's available in the UK and if so what it's called. (It's a very soft, dense latex foam about ¼in thick)
If you need some sent from here let me know.
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rockyrobin, I wasnt totally serious, but the remedy suggested would toughen the skin. As easiski, suggests, this shouldnt be attempted by shandy drinking southerners , but Im sure a West Yorkshire lad would have nay trouble. For foot and anle blisters I/We have found antiseptic spray (applied and left to dry), followed by a "second skin" blister plaster to work very well. My eldest had a pearler on his ankle due to his blase attitude at the bootfitting session, we followed the above proceedure and he was fine.
Were you using your usual boots?
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rockyrobin, Hell no!! Im only 22! - and I have a few more years before I have to get shacked up/broke/ miserable/divorced etc
The wedding should be good, my weegie friends can pack away the booze like nobody's business!
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rockyrobin, The guys I know who do it have two different attitudes: 1] wax the whole of the legs, which a lot of ladies like (smooooooth) or 2] only wax the shin on the boot area and wear long socks. If you ski enough you'll probably get quite hairless on the shins anyway. ps: it's not really a valid excuse - I send them off the buy mousse and then have no sympathy ("it''s only pain").
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rockyrobin, Weegie- as in Glaswegian. I stick to the pinot grigio and smirnoff ices!
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Nadenoodlee, Hehe, I had visions of a group of gassed up young ladies flinging an upturned glass round a table while giggling hysterically
If anyone would care to take the thicky batton from me your more than welcome to it.
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Weegie - not to be confused with wedgie!
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rockyrobin wrote: |
gregh, Funny you should mention boots. I went into my local shop yesterday and the guy in there said that some Salomon boots had flex problems. I have a pair of kids race boots that the shells were the right size but the liners didn't suit me so I relegated them to the wardrobe. He recommended I try my foam liners in the these kids boots as they should have a more even progressive flex, and when I got home this did bear out. So fingers crossed next slide time will see if the kiddies boots do the trick. |
I was wondering when you'd get around to trying that.
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With the Salomons it appears that if you try to have the top buckles even moderately tight as you should then the front cuffs have pulled together making the clearance between upper and lower front shell too tight and so stiffening the boots. |
Take another look at WTFH's Tecnica pic. I've only 30mins specific experience with the 1080 boot, but the mod WTFH posted certainly worked for bolide's XWave 9Ws.
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The only way round this was to have a booster strap fitted, foamed liners, and wear them with buckles lightly snapped shut and have the booster strap nice and tight inside the shell so that it was used to pull the spine forward instead of relying on the front of the cuffs to pull. This seemed to work but was allowing my shins to slide up and down the tongue of the liner, so when really powering the cuffs while trying to push skis that were too stiff for me I was making me some blisters
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Sounds like something else is amiss. For whatever reason, the tongue of the liner isn't pivoting on the same axis your ankle is.
I'd be tempted to really have a look at: the instep buckle, the arch support esp. around the heel, and possibly the fit of the liner around the Achilles tendon area.
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rockyrobin,
If I were you I'd go back to your bootfitter. A bit of minor shin soreness you can put up with, but if your boots are causing you blisters like that there's no way you'll be skiing all day everyday in Verbier!
Maybe I'm wrong, but I was told that foam injected liners (the ones that have all the tubes hanging out of them before they're fitted - is this what you have?) are pretty hard, uncomfotable and not really designed for skiing all day, everyday - they're designed for racers who need a lot of precision. Ditto race boots.
Perhaps you should be going for something softer, and have the whole lot fitted from scratch rather than getting new liners for old shells etc.?
A number of people have told me that Precision in Val d'Isere and Footworks in Cham are the 2 best bootfitters in the Alps (purely subjective, of course!), so maybe it would be worth a weekend trip to one when you first head out to Verbier? I got my boots fitted at Footworks (travelled from Pila especially, although admittedly only 2 hours on the bus) and would thoroughly recommend them. Had to go back to have minor alterations after a couple of weeks and they were more than happy to help. Boots are expensive, but you don't want them to ruin your season.
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads on Thu 4-08-05 19:04; edited 1 time in total
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