 Poster: A snowHead
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Hey how hard, expensive would it be to add this facility to the forum. Less chatty posts between members makes for a more interesting read and don't seem so clique.
We're all guilty,
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I like that idea - it would have my vote 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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kevindonkleywood, If you are able to open the door then I guess your broken arm has healed? 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Chat on here would be great - it's a right pain having to go over to fb to chat to SH freinds
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I thought Dawn Chorus was already effectively the forum chat page. Ain't that enough?
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achilles, This would be instant chat - not wait 3 mins in between posts for the page to load kind of chat.
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I phone the people I want to chat to.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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achilles, how do you know? you never go to Apres 
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holidayloverxx, I never go to DC - well I can't remember the last time I did.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| I phone the people I want to chat to. |
Are you from the future?
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| Hurtle wrote: |
| I phone the people I want to chat to. |
I cant phone while in work but I can discreetly "chat" away all day 
It might not be a function you would use - but plenty of others would.
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You know it makes sense.
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Agree it would kill, or at least mortally wound, the board.
Nothing currently stopping current SH's from private messaging each other and swapping IM details.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Dr John, Nothing stopping you watching Black and White telly or skiing in rear entry boots.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Oooooooh rear entry boots! best dancing boots I had!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, how are you planning to implement the chat functionality? One to one or a multi-user thread? Neither are appropriate, or functional, for an online forum. Show us an example of where it's currently being used in a similar community based web-site forum and we can asses it's capabilities and feasibility
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The chatty bit of snowHeads - the AZ - is all but dead, and is certainly dead boring.
FB and loss of interest by many of those who used to post more frequently (me included) may mean that "chat" horse has already bolted elsewhere, and perhaps the sH board will become increasingly just about snow. Not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps an understandable evolution. But the AZ and BZK etc etc will look more and more cliquey and less interesting as fewer people use them
In the last 4 hours - additions to just 11 AZ threads of which perhaps 2 or 3 are threads new today. The OT chat area of the other big forum I currently post on - which is just one of those for a sport which has perhaps a similar number of active participants - has had additions to 60 threads - almost all of which are new today. And is way more interesting and funny. And yes I have started many many threads in the past but now I just CBA. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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A compromise solution might work. There are different ways that boards/forums can be implemented. The popbitch board has a nice feel to it, with several conversation threads viewable in the same UI. Ignore the fatuous content from the worlds most self absorbed twunts, the structure and format works well.
http://www.popbitch.com/board.html
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the thing is a topic is a topic... the OP defines what the topic is about.. when a forum has been established a while there are very few "new topics" therefore people become disinterested whereas imo a "chat" box is more of a "pub feel" where you can have a "conversation" as opposed to a topic which stimulates a debate.
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stoatsbrother,
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In the last 4 hours - additions to just 11 AZ threads of which perhaps 2 or 3 are threads new today. The OT chat area of the other big forum I currently post on - which is just one of those for a sport which has perhaps a similar number of active participants - has had additions to 60 threads - almost all of which are new today.
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Crikey, how do you find the time to keep up with that lot, let alone contribute? 
marcellus,
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the thing is a topic is a topic... the OP defines what the topic is about.. when a forum has been established a while there are very few "new topics" therefore people become disinterested whereas imo a "chat" box is more of a "pub feel" where you can have a "conversation" as opposed to a topic which stimulates a debate
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That makes sense. I guess that if people do actually want to chat it would be good to have a place to do so.
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It seems to work OK on a motorcycling forum I use, also phpBB based. It means the threads tend to be more focussed.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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marcellus,
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the thing is a topic is a topic... the OP defines what the topic is about.. when a forum has been established a while there are very few "new topics" therefore people become disinterested whereas imo a "chat" box is more of a "pub feel" where you can have a "conversation" as opposed to a topic which stimulates a debate
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That makes sense. I guess that if people do actually want to chat it would be good to have a place to do so. |
Thinking about it some more, here's how I see the difference;
A standard forum (such as SH);
> You go into a busy bar
> there are lots of groups at different tables and you're invited to join each table and contribute but you feel that you've not really got anything to contribute to the discussion becuase there appears to be others at the table with a far greater knowledge than you, besides all you really wanted was a cheeky beer and a chat so you sup your beer and leave.
A forum with chat;
> you go into a busy bar
> there's loads of various conversations going on, some about specific topics some of which are quite interesting
> as you order your pint (because all you wanted was a cheeky beer and unwind) someone in the bar says "Hi Marcellus, how's your day going?"
> a conversation ensues and soon someone else joins in the discussion and so on,
> you buy a round and move to a table to continue the discussion.
Therefore in a forum with chat those who just want to have a discussion about a specific topic can still do so, but those who just want a chat can do so as well.
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Online chat is a bit tragic.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Hurtle, don't need to contribute much - fun just to read it. dip in and out. The AZ has become a total snore.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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stoatsbrother,
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And yes I have started many many threads
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The AZ has become a total snore
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RIRO
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marcellus, sounds good to me.
stoatsbrother, obviously, if you don't find anything at all of interest here, there's no point in being here. But, as marcellus implies, wherever you go, be it a real life bar, an ordinary forum, or a chat room, you're not going to find everything to your taste. I don't find the AZ 'a total snore' but perhaps my expectations are not particularly high. General chit-chat about the odd interesting topic will do me, whether in 'real' chat time or otherwise. I can't be bothered with lengthy monologues and I don't personally find this a comfortable medium for in-depth discussions about matters that really mean a lot to me - I have anxieties about my knowledge of any given topic being sufficient to be worth airing and also worry about boring people. So my posts tend to be short and I rarely have the courage to initiate a topic. I like to think that there is a place here for me, without risking being dubbed a total snore. Perhaps I'm deluding myself.
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You know it makes sense.
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The "Real" snowHeads chat room is in Seaford this weekend. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Is the current snowHeads format 'dead man walking' then 
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Poster: A snowHead
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rayscoops, stoatsbrother obviously thinks so. On the other hand, there seems to be a steady stream of new people signing up. Since I'm unfamiliar with any other forums, I really can't say one way or the other.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Not too bothered about chat but I'd love (and pay for) an app for iPods
is fiddly to browse snowheads through iPod safari
we're doing that now on holiday. Is awkward
Has an app ever been considered?
Quick access to the forums, remembers your login, nice big button so don't keep having to zoom in and out to navigate/read?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| stoatsbrother wrote: |
The chatty bit of snowHeads - the AZ - is all but dead, and is certainly dead boring.
FB and loss of interest by many of those who used to post more frequently (me included) may mean that "chat" horse has already bolted elsewhere, and perhaps the sH board will become increasingly just about snow. Not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps an understandable evolution. But the AZ and BZK etc etc will look more and more cliquey and less interesting as fewer people use them
In the last 4 hours - additions to just 11 AZ threads of which perhaps 2 or 3 are threads new today. The OT chat area of the other big forum I currently post on - which is just one of those for a sport which has perhaps a similar number of active participants - has had additions to 60 threads - almost all of which are new today. And is way more interesting and funny. And yes I have started many many threads in the past but now I just CBA. |
Is this also the 'off-season' for your other forum or is this peak season, such as might be the case for a cycling forum? Summer is always quiet here, but come autumn/winter is obviously a lot busier. TBH, I don't really care whether the AZ is riveting, boring, exciting, wha'ever. It is what we make of it. The AZ isn't my main means of socialising through the day, I have plenty of people to chat with/avoid at work  I probably read/dip in more than I post in all the sections, just because I don't have time or the will to make or read lengthy posts. Especially those with looong paragraphs. I wouldn't bother with 'chat', I don't on fb.
Boredsurfing although I did have to look it up
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cathy,
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Boredsurfing although I did have to look it up
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ditto!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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cathy, I used to buy the seasonal argument but I think the AZ was pretty quiet/boring/predictable over this winter too - and haven't seen you around it much!
I think the last time anyone did put any data out there, traffic on the whole site was up but on the AZ was down substantially. I am not saying this is a bad thing at all. Probably a healthy natural evolution. Just saying FB may have replaced the chatty aspects of the AZ. And perhaps after you have known everyone for a while, you know what most are going to say. Back to SZKs clique thingy.
rayscoops, no. This is just the chat bit which I think is disappearing, and SZK is saying should be dealt with by some kind of IRC model.
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Boredsurfing, indeed
But what do you think about the actual topic?
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wigan, admin thinks iphones are sad and for fanbois only. It ain't going to happen.
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I find SH the busiest forum I use - you usually get a quick reply which is nice. Obviously there are long-term posters who "know" each other (well those meeting in real life really must do) and newbies such as myself may feel "left out" of the chit-chat but, hey, it takes time to get known doesn't it. I don't expect to barge my way in to an established forum. So I guess I'm saying I find it OK as it is - there's a wealth of knowledge here and it's sometimes good to be put straight by people who know stuff. There's some smart people on here. I even enjoy the political threads which can bring out the worst in people but it's still cool. Like the snow......
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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stoatsbrother, What do I think? I think you are pretty much the same as me, you miss the confrontational stuff the quick flick over to JWAZ to gain an explaination the annual summer agro/argument/agressive discussion. FFS no one even bites on my SCGB groundbait these days! Would a chat facility add anything? no of course not, you can do that by telephone, MSN, fb or pm. But in those media you cannot demonstrate what a smartarse you are.
So do you need it, right now? No.
billb, Spot on,of course the odd thing is they probably don't really know each other, they are just a bunch of weirdos off the internet
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today was painfully slow on here - not a normal reflection of SH activity, even for a Summers day.
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FAQ
now where is the door??? 
menu up there^^^
