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If I was to convert from BASI 3 (ISIA ) to the Canadian system would I be automatically accepted as CSIA 4 or would they just convert me to CSIA 3 and then I would have to sit the CSIA 4 course for validation still as ISIA.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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CSIA4 is, i'm 99% confident, a higher level than ISIA/BASI3 so I seriously doubt it. I'm pretty sure there'd be some kind of conversion course for an ISTD, and I'd guess you'll have to do the CSIA3 exam as an ISIA to be accepted into the CSIA system.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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DaveC, sounds about right. That's how BASI works anyway - you have to enter one level down, so if CSIA 3 your first exams with BASI would be L3. I'd guess CSIA is similar.
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as DaveC says. The standard for CSIA 4 is exceptionally challenging in much the same way as BASI 4. Not sure if you will get an exception and will most likely have to take CSIA 3 exams first. Best to check with CSIA.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I don't have specific knowledge but know enough CSIAs to have the gist - you almost certainly wouldn't be accepted as a CSIA 4 which is the top level IIRC. 2nd question is why does it matter? Canadian ski schools would almost certainly employ you as a BASI, provided you had relevant work permit and AIUI you wouldn't ever get ISTD through the CSIA system anyway.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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fatbob, reason for conversion is just one of cost. No first aid renewal. no CRB checks and I beleive no actual 3 year course renewal validation.
But If I converted from BASI 3 to CASI what level within their system would they accept me. OK accept not going to get CSIA 4 without doing course but would I automatically get CSIA 3 ( lower than ISIA ).
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Super Eagle, it's only lower than ISIA because it doesn't do the CRB stuff, I think Canadians might take a dim view if you tell them you deserve their cert because you have the equivilant elsewhere  It was ISIA accepted a couple of years ago, and seen as an easy route because it didn't have all the extra modules to do. As above, you'd have to take the CSIA3.
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it's only lower than ISIA because it doesn't do the CRB stuff,
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not so sure about that, there is also the off piste module and other courses to ensure the minimum level of training hours to qualify for the stamp. just having an exam day/week doesnt cut it for ISIA recognition.
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it's only lower than ISIA because it doesn't do the CRB stuff,
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not so sure about that, there is also the off piste module and other courses to ensure the minimum level of training hours to qualify for the stamp. just having an exam day/week doesnt cut it for ISIA recognition. |
I missed an intended "etc" there, but yeah, that's the gist. Costs $500 for the precourse and $200 for the exam not £382831983 too
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DaveC, no arguement from me, different systems for different markets, not better or worse... CSIA works if you want to teach in canada, great system, fantastic course materials, low cost and train with your ski school while going up the ladder. If you want to teach globally ISIA makes more sense.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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As I explained earlier if I stay with BASI level 3 ( ISIA ) then every 3 years I have to attend a refresher course, Do a child protection course and every 2 years revalidate my first aid certificate. If I converted to CSIA after completing the relevant course all the above ongoing costs are not required so it is cheaper to not only gain your qualification as although the CSIA level 4 does require some additional moduals they are no where near the amount required by BASI and the ongoing cost would be cheaper.
I would like to know if anyone as converted before and if already ISIA qualified would they automatically let me join as a CSIA level 3 at least. My scope for being able to teach aboard for the foreseeable future is not looking good so keeping up the ongoing costs of BASI system is not looking cost effective but I am willing to be convinced.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| http://www.snowpro.com/csia/e/about-us-faq.html wrote: |
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AFFILIATE INSTRUCTORS:
# Q: I am certified from a foreign country, how can I become a CSIA member?
# A: You must send a copy of your current certification and application form to the Membership Services Department to be granted an Affiliate CSIA Member status. The cost for becoming a single affiliate member is CAN$132.00 plus applicable taxes.
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# Q: If I want to become a CSIA Instructor do I get any credit for my other certification(s)?
# A: All Affiliate Instructors with legitimate foreign certification merit some degree of credit. Affiliate Instructors holding the ISIA designation from their country can become CSIA members by registering and attending a CSIA course and paying an annual membership fee of CAN$132.00 plus applicable taxes as a Affiliate Instructor.
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Again, no organisation will accept you like for like, qualification wise. I guess since ISIA is granted by the CSIA4 it's confusing, but technically CSIA/BASI3 are similar. I'm kind of suprised CSIA4 grants ISIA, given it still doesn't tick the boxes that ISIA require.
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Just spotted this, for your info level 3 CSIA courses and exams are held in Andorra a couple of times each season, could be a cheaper.
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You know it makes sense.
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The CSIA level 3 even though it lost its Isia badge is still pretty well recognised. For France and the other speed test countries you still need your slalom test along with your Basi 3 to work as a stagiere. The level 4 exam ( 4 days ) is held twice a year and you need to have done the level 4 course ( 6 days ), and have your race coach 2 (cscf). The csia 4 is a long way north of isia (basi 3) in terms of ski ability to pass. It's f.....ing hard but a very fair exam, bib numbers only, no chit chat with the trainers. Send copies of your qualifications to The eastern office. They are very familiar with the basi system.
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