 Poster: A snowHead
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As a previous thread asked for the pros and cons of wearing headphones and listening to music on the piste to be left out......
I can't see how this can be safe, part of safety on the piste is being aware of your surroundings.
If there is a skier/boarder in your vicinity is it not safer to be able to hear them?
Could it be construed as a participating factor should the be an accident?
Just wondering on the general consensus.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Chattonmill, you might like to use the search facility to access some (many) lively discussions on the topic.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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There's a point when the volume is such that you can hear both.
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Hurtle, Ahh sorry!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I tend to look where I'm going too. Pretty helpful.
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Now then, where's that yawn smiley?
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| Lizzard wrote: |
| Now then, where's that yawn smiley? |
You're normally wearing it, non? 
This might be a rerun but it's always valid.
Skiing / snowboarding needs no soundtrack other than the natural one supplied that doesn't endanger other people.
Wearing headphones = wearing condoms.
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parlor, in your opinion, that is. Wearing headphones and listening to music doesn't endanger other people.
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Does anyone condone wearing headphones when cycling on busy streets? It's ( IMVHO) much the same - other than you are going considerably faster in the latter case. And if your reactions a dulled by an instant, then sorry hyweljenkins, yes you can endanger other people.
Wearing an mp3 when walking the street is only likely to get yourself hurt (although not noticing so early, for example, a car backing out of its driveway may cause trauma and distress to the driver if they hit you) but whilst in charge of a 200lb missile at 40 mph? ( that's me on skis btw) - not so sure its smart thing to do.
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| hyweljenkins wrote: |
| parlor, in your opinion, that is. Wearing headphones and listening to music doesn't endanger other people. |
In your opinion: SOME PEOPLE don't wear them LOUD enough to endanger people. Good for you. I still think it's really sad that you need to somehow 'enhance' your skiing experience. Maybe you're doing it wrong?
Easier just to ban them, zero tolerance. That's what I'd have.
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Can you hear a horn when you've got the radio on in the car? You can? Oh goody. That's because you don't have the radio on so loud it makes your ears bleed.
The same is true of the integrated helmet speakers - on mine it simply won't go up loud enough that I would consider it loud in any way shape or form.
Just not a risk unless you turn your amp up to 11. There is a balance to be struck.
If you are travelling everywhere at 40mph I don't see why headphones are a problem - it's not like anyone is going to hit you from behind.
I fail to see how music or any other noise is going to cause you to crash into something - somebody out of control might crash into you, but it won't be your fault - you are either the downhill skiier, or you are looking where you're going.
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JimW, I wear headphones while road running. I've never run in to anyone or caused anyone to dodge for cover. Wearing headphones doesn't endanger people. Idiots endanger people. I wear headphones while skiing, and I've never hit anyone or caused anyone to dodge for cover. I wonder how I manage.
parlor, nope. I wear mine to block out the inane drivel from people like, oooh, you, on the slopes. I assure you I'm not doing it wrong. What is so brilliant about the sound of the wind rushing past your ears?
Monium, if someone hits you from behind, the headphones have nothing to do with it. The idiot that hits you from behind does, though.
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parlor, stop being so bossy. 
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You know it makes sense.
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| hyweljenkins wrote: |
parlor, nope. I wear mine to block out the inane drivel from people like, oooh, you, on the slopes. I assure you I'm not doing it wrong. What is so brilliant about the sound of the wind rushing past your ears?
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It's all part of the experience, being on the mountain hearing foreign accents and languages, hearing people laugh, people swear when there's an incident, hearing people having a good time, having a laugh, hearing the silence, the sound of planks through snow. It is sensory deprivation as Parlor's earphone-condom analogy suggests, blocking out one of the 3 channels of stimulation.
If I was having sex with a beautiful woman I'd want to hear her and not the latest 'Lady GaGa' album piped through my Sennheiser earbud earphones. hyweljenkins, Does it make sense to you now?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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parlor, what else will you ban? Alcohol? (a contributory factor in many accidents). Helmets which can injure the people you crash into? (a friend had a terminally smashed knee, which all the best knee surgeons in Austria couldn't put back together, when an 10 year old idiot in a tuck position crashed into her on the side of the piste when she was wiping her 4 year old's nose).
It's really sad that you haven't experienced the pleasure of cruising down an empty piste to Vivaldi's Gloria.
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Poster: A snowHead
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if your finding your helmet integrated speakers are just not loud enough, you can buy some pretty good mini headphone amps, they plug in through the jack plugs. work a treat
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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PisteHead, if you think sex with a beautiful woman is only as good as skiing you've never had sex with a beautiful woman.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I guess I'd want total awareness if I was skiing a *really* euro-busy piste, but otherwise, I don't see how not being able to hear will ever make me crash into anyone, or hearing the person smashing into the back of me would help.
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parlor, agreed.
most of us spend so little time exposed to the elements these days. Why dilute the experience? Are people really that bored by skiing?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| hyweljenkins wrote: |
| PisteHead, if you think sex with a beautiful woman is only as good as skiing you've never had sex with a beautiful woman. |
I think the only way to settle this is nekkid pics of said beautful woman. Then the jury can vote
To the original question obviously the workaround is one of those boombox backpacks, I'd recommend using one in parlor's vicinity.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Mon 14-06-10 19:44; edited 1 time in total
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| Chattonmill wrote: |
| Hurtle, Ahh sorry! |
Don't apologise, there's always someone ready for another crack at the whip! Just thought you might like a little preview! 
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What about pretending you've got an i-pod on and singing your way down the slopes like I did this year? It was a great way to stop me thinking about the perils in front of me and relax and enjoy the journey. Springsteen's 'Thunder Road' was on my 'i-pod' all the time and was a great help to this nervous, wimp of a skier - and the battery never ran out! Try it, it's fun but don't blame me if you suddenly have men in white coats skiing down after you!
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| hyweljenkins wrote: |
| parlor, nope. I wear mine to block out the inane drivel from people like, oooh, you, on the slopes. I assure you I'm not doing it wrong. What is so brilliant about the sound of the wind rushing past your ears? |
Haha. It's rare to find me on a piste and when you do, all you'll hear from me is "inane" excitement. Drivel, no, I save that for winding people up on the internet.
You even think it's just about the sound of wind rushing past your ears, it's not. For you piste lovers: it's the delicate changes of noise as your edges go through a series of engagement. For me, my preference is powder, where I like to here it woosh, and maybe even sloosh! The best noise is when it's so deep it rustles against your clothing as you steam through it. Truly motion-in-poetry.
TBH I think there is actually a much more subtle danger in not having all of your senses turned to maximum. When one of your party skis ahead and makes a wrong turn. Countless times I've skied with people (sans headphones) and had to yell at the top of my voice for them (often) not to hear me, turn left, turn right, STOP!
You're in one of natures most beautiful places and you should be taking it all in, the mountains talk to you. Not just the dreaded "whoompf" before an avalanche, the beep of a piste beast, let skiing be at the center of all your senses.
The Buddhists say "All mountains are the temples of God and are places which destroy Sin".
I guess you like your "raise the roof" happy clappy stuff. For me, I like it pure.
No body is right, but you do look like a bunch of berks listening to whatever it is you're listening too when you don't have too... Bored? Go home. Rhythm? Learn to ski. To get psyched? Mwwwwaaahhhhhhh.
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Not on snow, but tragic consequences can occur as a result of wearing headphones, and not being aware of your surroundings
From another article I read it would seem they were very loud as the traindriver sounded his horn to warn him too 
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There are clearly some snowheads who will be aghast at the new government's plans to cut down on the "Health and Safety" excesses of recent years.
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| pam w wrote: |
| There are clearly some snowheads who will be aghast at the new government's plans to cut down on the "Health and Safety" excesses of recent years. |
Not me. I prefer a sensible approach to life.
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I love my music and to me it enhances my skiing experience. There is nothing better than having some decent track accompany me downhill..
We have all watched skiing videos with awesome soundtracks haven't we? Well i like to live that.
As many have said previously i dont think it creates danger. True, you may not hear it coming your way from behind and thats a risk i take but it doesn't mean i will plough into anyone else as i use my eyes as my primary source of input and i am always looking where i am going.
Sometimes i turn my music off where i want to go natural and sometimes that does it for me too.
Choice is the thing here, there is no right or wrong. Those that want to ban it should ask if it would be acceptable to ban the deaf too.
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You know it makes sense.
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| PisteHead wrote: |
If I was having sex with a beautiful woman I'd want to hear her and not the latest 'Lady GaGa' album piped through my Sennheiser earbud earphones. hyweljenkins, Does it make sense to you now? |
I dunno, i reckon Poker Face could be just the track.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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What do you recommend to accompany sex with a less-than-beautiful woman?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| parlor wrote: |
Joking aside as I mentioned the ban first, you're an idiot. |
So anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot?
Grow up.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Snapzzz wrote: |
| parlor wrote: |
Joking aside as I mentioned the ban first, you're an idiot. |
So anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot?
Grow up. |
No. Saying blind people should be banned from skiing makes you an idiot. Did you read past the bit where I called you an idiot or did the internet chat room rage kick in straight away? I think I made it pretty clear, but don't beat yourself up about it, I am an idiot and I certainly need to grow up.
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I often have one headphone in whilst skiing on piste or in the bumps, I haven't had any problems re other skiers, and it can be fun to ski to the rythm, and do something stupid as the song breaks.
I won't usually listen to music whilst offpiste though, communication and general awareness of what's going on around you are more important there, but also when you're out in the real hills away from the resort, there is much more wilderness/mountian to be in tune with, if that mkaes sense.
| hyweljenkins wrote: |
| PisteHead, if you think sex with a beautiful woman is only as good as skiing you've never had sex with a beautiful woman. |
I dunno, I'd take a waist-deep bluebird day over pretty much anything. Maybe you just don't get laid enough
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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this thread is laughable. ban earphones on the piste, are you having a laugh!!! Next you will want piste police who check every single person who goes onto the mountain to ensure they are fully equiped with gear for every eventuality. Its about time common sense to hold, if you want to listen to your music ( i never do if im honest) then fine, or if you would rather listen to nature instead then thats also fine. Really dont see the problem, just a thought, i thought you had to give way to the skier infront, so if you have music on, does this impare your eyesight aswell? 
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parlor, you need an irony/joke smiley ..... some are missing it and taking you seriously 
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I'm confused do I have to have the sex on piste with an iPhone or is it off piste without an ipod 
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most of my group wear headphones whilst skiing, I get pissed off with them just looking blankly at me that I end up pulling them out. It is dangerous, although.. I agree that there are dangers of wearing them on piste, but thats not the issue. The problem is with guys wearing them whilst skiing off piste lines, thats dangerous, not being able to hear the avalanche.
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excellent, a decent argument thread at last. I'm no fascist, people should be free to do what they like within reason, but I do think that you're somewhat of a heathen if you use headphones while skiing/boarding. Quite apart from the beauty of the mountains etc, one the main issue I've found when I've experimented with headphones is that you don't hear your own skis on the snow and so deprive yourself of essential feedback. I'm in complete agreement that you don't need to add to the mountain experience by adding music, that's what the apres is for.
Ricklovesthepowder, we seem to agree on most things, but it's not as simple as "downhill skier has right of way". Many times I've had to take evasive action because I've heard someone approaching from above who wasn't paying due care and attention and I've had to take evasive action on their behalf. If I was wearing headphones the chances are I wouldn't have heard them. If they are approaching from behind then it's their responsibility to take evasive action, but saying "it wasn't my fault" is very little consolation if I'm being carted off the mountain on a blood wagon, holiday ruined, after being hit by an idiot.
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.....so
Skiing in Europe is pretty much the best there is, anyone who goes skiing in North America or migrates there is a moron. Long flight, immigration hassle, lack of predominantly cheese and potato based fare (aside form poutine) , everyone's fat etc etc.
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