 Poster: A snowHead
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i don't suppose there is such a beast.. but what comes close? For carving on piste and skiing powder and bumps? And something that won't be too bad when i have to ski on the ice (can anyone ski on ice??)
I don't really want to be taking 2 pairs everywhere any more.... in case you ask.. i'm 5ft 9ins, & 12 stone in the ski season 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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namwons, which type of skiing (eg off-piste powder, on-piste, bumps, etc) would you be most happy to compromise and which would you be least happy to compromise? Or would you like a ski which is equally (in)competent in all conditions?
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K2 Poonton!
Dont be put off by the width - its pretty good in all conditions, especially powder
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hi Rob@rar
ideally a ski equally competent in all conditions, but if i have to err towards anything it would be offpiste though i am fond of high speed carving too. I like the bumps but prob spend least time on them than anywhere.. proper moguls that is.. I've skiied Scott Punishers and like them.. anything better for all-round out there?
The other thing is i'm hoping to do an instructor course next season and wonder what these type of skis would be like teaching on. I looked at the Pontoon review and they sound awesome in powder.. almost a "must-have" - but for teaching??
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| I looked at the Pontoon review and they sound awesome in powder.. almost a "must-have" - but for teaching?? |
They are a little wide for the piste - but the rocker makes them easy to turn especially in bumps.
With a touring binding it is a great all mountain option.
And no one wants to take 2 pairs of skis everywhere - when you can get one that will do everything!
What other type of skiing do you want to do ?
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namwons, if you're doing an instructor course you'll also need to think about what ski will be suitable for that. I fear that a great all round ski which is equally at home in powder, variable snow, high speed on-piste carving, bumps and instructor exams doesn't exist. Pontoons would be a complete nightmare, and was suggested here as a little bit of trolling. My advice would be to bite the bullet and go for two pairs, one with a piste focus and the other with an off-piste focus. More hassle when travelling, but worth it not to have to compromise on ski choice IMO.
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+1 for rob@rar but if you truly must have a one ski quiver analyse where you will be doing most of your skiing, your ability level/experience and choose from teh spectrum accordingly. On shs the spectrum of what people consider to be all-mountain varies from 110-70-100 ish to 140-110-130ish so you will never get definitive advice.
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namwons, I have some 179 HSFR's for sale which has a 92 waist and has been a great all mountain ski for me.
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^^^
Those would be great for namwons.
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^^^
Not for instructor exams they wouldn't.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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^^
But Poontons would be better for almost everything.
Its a really fun ski for instructor exams.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
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Not for instructor exams they wouldn't. |
True
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But Poontons would be better for almost everything.
Its a really fun ski for instructor exams.
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define "fun" in this context yaq si HS 
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You know it makes sense.
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Try them - once you go fat you wont you go back.
Plus Pontoon is surprisingly easy for snow ploughs and demos.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I have some 179 HSFR's for sale which has a 92 waist and has been a great all mountain ski for me.
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what are you buying next Olly? my search for HSFR (never heard of them) led me to a site for icelantic skis.. these look pretty nifty.. anyone used them? if so which model?
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Plus Pontoon is surprisingly easy for snow ploughs and demos.
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think i'd like someone to second that yaq si HS
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Poster: A snowHead
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namwons, I might be wrong, but I think they mean High Society Freerides?
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once you go fat you wont you go back
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So said Pavarotti....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Megamum wrote: |
| namwons, I might be wrong, but I think they mean High Society Freerides? |
you aren't wrong Cracking skis IMHO
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Mike Pow wrote: |
| Head Titan ... Getting the latter for the 10/11 season |
Yup, me too. Looks to be a good teaching ski with a reasonable balanced compromise for on piste/off piste.
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rob@rar, oh good, you so obviously needed another pair of skis!
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But I will sell some as well. Nice pair of Volkl Karmas going cheap, and maybe my HSFR as well (although will keep the bindings).
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rob@rar, Have you got the 187's HSFR? Maybe interested?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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o11y, no, I've got the baby version (179?).
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Two pairs is the way to go, but if you can only afford one (and have to pass exams on them), you should definitely check out the Dynastar Sultan 85s.
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Line blends? More freestyle oriented though
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You know it makes sense.
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Depends dude. If you're a solid skier you'll be able to rock a narrower ski in powder, and so compromise less on piste.
Personally i don't really like 'all rounders'; the closest i get in my quiver is a Head im82. Stiff, responsive and fast edge-to-edge (can short-radius if you have the legs), and enough float if you've the skills when it dumps.
In short though, buy a bigger ski bag and work on your charm at check-in 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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yag_si_HS, how do you fit the Pontoons in your gay ski carry? 
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Poster: A snowHead
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WDF Preachers, although they're not at home on ice.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Hire skis.
Most ski resort shops now carry an extensive range of top end skis.
If you must buy, head more towards the piste side of things, better for your instructor course, you are going to be doing a lot of short radius turns.
They will work perfectly well on all but the deepest powder days, then you go & hire something silly
I've got a pair a of slalom skis & they are awesome on a powder day.
They may be narrow, but they have big tips & tails so they float if you go fast enough
& it really confuses the poseurs ... full knarly off piste kit but 165 slalom skis !
(ok I have lots of other skis too, including silly fat, but it is good for a laugh occasionaly)
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namwons, I have to agree with rob@rar, you will need two pairs if you are going for instructor training. It sounds like you will need a good piste ski and an off piste ski that can handle the piste sometimes.
rob@rar, has seen me ski Movement Fly Swatters at Hemel, good fun on piste and a dream off piste
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Alan McGregor wrote: |
Hire skis.
Most ski resort shops now carry an extensive range of top end skis.
If you must buy, head more towards the piste side of things, better for your instructor course, you are going to be doing a lot of short radius turns.
They will work perfectly well on all but the deepest powder days, then you go & hire something silly
I've got a pair a of slalom skis & they are awesome on a powder day.
They may be narrow, but they have big tips & tails so they float if you go fast enough
& it really confuses the poseurs ... full knarly off piste kit but 165 slalom skis !
(ok I have lots of other skis too, including silly fat, but it is good for a laugh occasionaly) |
Which slalom ski are you rocking Alan?
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I've used slalom skis on powder days before now.
Float they don't, despite big tips and tails. That taught me that the underfoot bit provides most of the floatation.
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| Mosha Marc wrote: |
I've used slalom skis on powder days before now.
Float they don't, despite big tips and tails. That taught me that the underfoot bit provides most of the floatation. |
Hmm I'd be inclined to agree and FWIW I don't know what hire shops he frequents but most places I see don't seem to be overendowed with a decent selection of long wide skis (& 175 Pocket Rockets don't count).
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I've used slalom skis on powder days too, and in fresh light powder they're ok, a little squirrely perhaps, but certainly skiable and a lot better than my GS skis. However in deep wet snow, slushy off-piste or heavy snow I find them much more difficult compared with my fatter longer skis and have to step off the gas a little.
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(Proper) powder is easy to ski to anything, just the surfy feel of fatter skis is more fun (for me, anyway). It's the other offpiste conditions, such as heavy wet snow/crud/etc where fat skis are most beneficial.
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FAQ
) . Cant speak for their suitability for teaching but for a one loader they're all you'll ever need. Sadly discontinued but as I said evolved into the source, which going by the blurb should be even more versatile (if a little more piste / less free oriented). I'm a big fan of their skis as you might tell, not sure about the newer stuff but the "original" gear is top notch