 Poster: A snowHead
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I've almost persuaded my gf to try indoor or dry slope sliding, so far so good.
The trouble is she has large bunions on both feet, her big toe joints protrude about an inch.
I don't expect to be able to hire boots that would comfortably accomodate this shape and I'd hate her to be put off by painful boots.
This can't be a unique problem, I'd appreciate any suggestions but I'm not inclined to change the gf, it's taken ages to find one who likes old cars, real ale and me!
I know it's possible to get boots stretched but is there a limit and does it depend on the type/make of boot?
I'm loathe to buy expensive boots and have them stretched in case she doesn't take to it, can second hand boots be stretched?
Should we go to the dark side for the softer boarder boots?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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You can adapt the boot for the bunions bud! it sometimes doesn't look pretty (your boot looks like its grown bunions also) but works well! Make sure you get a decent footbed (insole or what ever u want to call it) in the boot also to stabilise the foot so you don't get any un-needed pressure on the bunions!
Just make sure she gets the right size and then adapts the boot, do not go up a size to get the exta width, it will cause u more problems than good!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks Dan, I've made the mistake of going up a size to get the width, never again!
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tafflondon, dansmith has pretty much covered it
i would avoid second hand boots if at all possible as you will need to have the boot selected pretty carefully, the size and shape must match the rest of the foot, if it doesn't then there is the risk that the foot will slop around and cause more problems then the bunions currently do
as for how far you can stretch a boot, this depends very much on the make and model of boot, the better quality shells made of PU will always stretch a lot better than the cheaper shells, although with some patience and the right tools they can be stretched
the amount you are talking about 25mm is pushing things to the limits but rarely do you actually need to go that far, as there will be some fo the shape taken up by the liner and the foot when held properly will have less spread
hope that helps, good luck getting it sorted... it may be worth seeing if she can try a rental boot on, and see how it feels...it may be that she can withstand any pain in that area for a couple fo hours to see if she enjoys the sport, at least you can tell her it is possibel to make things better if she wants to carry on
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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i would avoid second hand boots if at all possible as you will need to have the boot selected pretty carefully,
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We take part ex, gives us a great selection of reasonably priced SH boots. Most cases it's clients buying new boots and leaving their old shells behind. Bit of TLC, buckle changes, new liner and Footbed and as good as new. Clearly the shape and sizes are carefully observed and costs only the price of a liner and FB.
Don't know why, given growing economic and environmental concerns, more people don't do this.
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SMALLZOOKEEPER, Why oh why are you stuck in Chamonix?!! Their gain is certainly our loss.
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Megamum, The yokels in L'il Scratchy ran him out of town with pitchforks
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The Voice of Reason, ???? 
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i would avoid second hand boots if at all possible as you will need to have the boot selected pretty carefully,
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We take part ex, gives us a great selection of reasonably priced SH boots. Most cases it's clients buying new boots and leaving their old shells behind. Bit of TLC, buckle changes, new liner and Footbed and as good as new. Clearly the shape and sizes are carefully observed and costs only the price of a liner and FB.
Don't know why, given growing economic and environmental concerns, more people don't do this. |
all very well but i get the feeling the OP was thinking more about e bay than a trip to chamonix with his gf who as yet is to actually go skiing 
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tafflondon, I have bunions and CEM got my boots just right for me. Previously I'd been buying them too big, to get them on comfortably. But I spend a lot of time skiing - it's a big commitment before you've taken the first step. Is the gf doing this just to please you? What other sports does she do? Dry slopes can be quite hard and discouraging - an indoor slope would be more enjoyable. Can you get to Hemel? Just a trip up there to have lunch and see what it's all about might be worthwhile.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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tafflondon, while I wouldn't advocate something so radical for someone who hasn't actually tried skiing yet, has your girlfriend thought of seeing an orthopaedic surgeon? If they are bothering her and causing grief with normal footwear and pain. They sound significant at 1". Food for thought.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Lou, any ortho worth his qualifications would not operate unless they were causing significant pain or had got to a point where there was no alternative, bunion operations can hve a very long rehab and are not always fully successful, normally something best left until later life if at all possible, the biggest thign we see is people who have an op then they get no follow up (ie orthotic foot supports) and the bunions start to come back
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| SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote: |
We take part ex, gives us a great selection of reasonably priced SH boots |
I thought about that for a while before realising you didn't mean boots for SnowHeads.
Time for another coffee I suspect
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You know it makes sense.
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CEM, I work in a unit where four of our orthopods regularly operate on bunions (varying types of osteotomies, usually with internal fixation), often in people over 50 whose main symptom is pain and difficulty wearing footwear (sensible footwear, not silly heels). You are right, they are not always fully successful, foot surgery should not be taken lightly and the recovery can take a while is which is why I said, "if they are bothering her and causing grief with normal footwear and pain"
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Lou, i think the key there is people over 50, i had a client in at the weekend early 20's had been through bilateral bunion surgery whilst they were smaller than they had been she had already noticed that there was enlargement from where they were after the op... she is now 4 years post op, she was not prescribed any form of orthosis, she pronates heavily and without support of some type will be back to were she was in another 3-4 years... maybe you can answer the question as to why do so many orthopods not routinely prescribe an orthotic device post op... i know the podiatric surgeons that i work with do??
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Poster: A snowHead
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CEM, I can't answer that but will certainly ask one of our foot specialists later this week when he is in. I know that the SCARF osteotomy (this is by far the most common type performed in our department, rarely see simple bunionectomies now) seems to be having good success.
I have never seen an orthotic device prescribed routinely post-op, but am interested to know more about it now ....
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Lou, the only reason i could get for the orthotic was to prevent the excessive pronation which caused the enlargemnt in the first place, it will always still be there and if not controlled then the bunion will return in time
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