 Poster: A snowHead
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I bought a pair of Shoguns last week (from Rivington Alpine), and they've turned up today with the wrong bindings on them... full story below, but in short should I be annoyed that I've got Mojo 12s instead of STH 12s?
When I rang up to place the order they initially offered me Head Mojo 12 bindings, which caught me by surprise because they weren't mentioned on the website. I'd been planning on asking them to mount Salomon STH 12s, and because I didn't really know anything about the Mojos I decided to go with the STH 12s. A price was agreed (decent value, but didn't feel like I was getting a mega-bargain), and the lady I was talking to took my mobile no. and agreed let me know once they had a courier reference.
So the skis turned up today (never got a call with the courier number)...and they're mounted with Mojo 12s. Otherwise absolutely fine.
I know bindings are all pretty good quality, and I'm not worried about skiing on the Mojos...but I can't shake the feeling that the STH 12s are better quality. Also, from what I can tell the STH 12s are also more expensive (difficult to find UK prices, but US stores seem to sell the STHs for twice the price).
I should add that I think Rivington are moving premises at the moment, and combined with the good feedback they've had on here I'm willing to assume this is a genuine mistake.
I'm going to try to give them a call tomorrow (they weren't answering the phone today), but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the relative quality of the bindings?
All thoughts appreciated 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Pretty sure STH12s are rebranded Z12s, which were a binding best avoided unless your alternative was Marker bio-toes. Head Mojo 12s are tyrolia based, right? I'd take them in a heartbeat over Z12s, anyway.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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ChrisWo, bindings are bindings. Do they match the graphics?
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give me the mojos over the salomons any day of the week
personally i think the tyrolia binding is one of the safest out there
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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under a new name, that was the first thing I thought about (obviously)...they're not too bad, and neither really matches the Shogun's green and bamboo theme (how long till someone brings out a bamboo binding?!).
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Anything Salomon is defo a bad move (check out tgr for their latest clusterfuck over touring boots) take the Tyrolias.
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The STH12's have a toe piece that's a bit more beefed up compared to the Z12's but they're still have that POS three screw of the Z12. Still very plasticy though with non too durable brake levers. I'd take the higher metal content & stiffer Mojo's every time. You definately got the better deal.
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ChrisWo, The Redeemer Graphics would be a much better match for a Panda 
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The Salomon STH12 is a Reinforced version of there Z12 (Same DIN range).. It was originally specified for their freestyle guys as a hardy alternative.. much like "spyderjon" says they are simply 'beefed up'.
There is nothing wrong with either binding.. and to a certain extent.. as long as the binding had been drilled well (with no air bubbles) and your DIN setting is within its range.. their isnt really any issue?
Will you be skiing the Shogun very aggressive on piste? not forgetting ofcourse the Shogun is around 100mm underfoot so not quite as aggressive a piste/slalom ski i presume?
The Mojo's will be fine 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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andy_snow_web, a three screw toe piece with loads of lateral flex ok for freestyle, I think not. I've seen half a dozen busted Z10/12/STH12 toe pieces in the last year & all were lateral torque breakages even though none had pulled-out & they were used well within their din range. For anyone in the 'aggressive use' category these bindings are not good.
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Ah, the salesman vs ski tech opinions. Always reassuring 
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You know it makes sense.
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spyderjon, ok...you can stop now - I actually have another pair of skis with STH 12s on already (didn't have much choice when I bought them). I'm beginning to worry that next time I'm nailing a massive cliff drop...oh no, wait a minute, I'm more likely to be meadow skipping
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