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goretex layering advice

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just bought deb a goretex shell bottoms for next years trip. what would you reccomend for wearing underneath, looking for something very warm. are people wearing baselayer and fleece pants under these??????
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My salopettes aren't technically shells, although they have next to no insulation. I've only needed to wear thermals under them once, and that was in a really really bad early jan storm in St Anton last season (and my thin Helly Hanson ones were fine). My legs don't really get cold, but with a good windproof shell like goretex, I doubt you'll need more than say the Helly ones (I'm sure you know the ones I mean, jsut the standard Hellys).
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graeme, I wear "200" weight fleece under mine from Decathlon IIRC, unless it's particularly cold in which case I add (ordinary) base layer. Don't have to do that too often. This time of year I just usually use the base layer.

Mine are "proper" shells though, with no insulation at all.
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Same here. I usually wear either Skins or Nike compression bottoms under mine - easier to wash than the shell trousers themselves - and have never needed anything more substantial.
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Just Skins for me usually, unless it's getting on for -15 or less in which case I might add a pair of merino wool leggings or something similar.
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I'd melt if I wore thermals under my strides, but that's just me. TNF Rockafella pants sorted me out this season in temps ranging from -20 to +10, blooming marvelous things, haven't a clue how they work but they do.
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I use 3/4 length snow and rock thermals and have been fine. I'm using a pair of Arcteryx shell trousers which are without lining or other insulation. It needs to be very cold i.e. below minus 20 before I start needing something else. In case of really cold temps I have a pair of Mountain Equipment belay trousers http://www.mountain-equipment.co.uk/the_gear/clothing/insulation/cirrus_pants---281/ that come out. I rarely use them.
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graeme, Under armour leggings under mine. Oh I usually have my undercrackers on as well Laughing The only problem with the under armour is NO FLY. Which I guess won't be a problem for Deb Little Angel .
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proper style Cool

I've got shells which i find can be coldish, but the warmer baselayer does the trick - I think mine are the warmest helly hanson leggins
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graeme, Polartec PowerStretch
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I've never needed anything beyond 200 fleece jogging style bottoms under a shell.
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I've never actually owned a pair of true shell pants but all of my pants have always been very thin and non-insulated. I've worn long johns maybe 5 days in the last 500 or so days of skiing.

Then again, I have pretty hairy legs.

You need a ladies input, they get way colder than us and if you like them the way I like them, they don't have hairy legs...
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icebreaker underwear (no cold cotton layer)

skins or base layer Icebreaker depending on season/warmth wanted/how I feel on the day

If needed Polartec Powerstretch as comprex says - nice and stretchy = comfy

When wind chill has been -25 in Canada(I think it was around -15C) I did have 2 layers of icebreaker and the polartec pants but I was the only person in our group not frozen on chair (wicking moisture well and windproof)
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