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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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shweeeeet!!!!...... all superb shots.....
okbye
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great shots!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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bobinch, I've loved all the photos, thank you. Feel completely worthless now though 
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bobinch, fab photos 
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bobinch, just looks like beautiful cold smoke, was that the best snow of your epic season?
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Gsyfreerider, it was up there but I'd say the best was the day on Mt Fort N face and the Bec.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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pam w, I reckon you ski plenty well enough to do that kind of stuff.....get some fatter skis in the end of season sales, your technique is all there IMHO.....
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that picture of Horizon is the definition of a s41t eating grin 
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You know it makes sense.
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Gsyfreerider, there were so many great days this season but it was up there with the best. As Swirly says last Thursday? was also superb and practically every weekend in Jan and Feb offered fresh tracks as well. My favourite run of the season is still the Vallee Noir that we did on a Hellbroner day earlier in the season but the bottom of banana in waist deep snow and perfect sunshine on Monday ran it close!
pam w, it's just light hearted banter with the old school diehards on Snowheads.... We often have just as good conditions in Europe and we certainly have much better mountains - more elevation, more Alpine in feel and much more liberty to explore.
I don't know your ski level but you'd be surprised how much easier it is these days to ski off piste on rockered skis. I drone about this a lot but if you get a day with 20cm of fresh snow hire a pair of wide, rockered skis and get a decent skier to take you out on some gentle relatively untracked terrain. I have a sneaking suspicion you will surprise yourself... There is no better feeling!
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bobinch, I'm not biting. Got work to do.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Wow. Just wow. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Great photos, I'm very envious. I've had to cancel two trips this season and it looks like I missed some of the best snow. The joys of being out there all-season long - you definitely should have something fat in your quiver when conditions are this good!
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brian
brian
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| you definitely should have something fat in your quiver when conditions are this good! |
I kind of think that's the wrong way round. When conditions are this good, you could grab a pair of euro-carvers and have fun. It's when it's heavy, cruddy, crusty, etc. you really need to be fashionable.
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Nice. Last shot has the steeze, undoubtedly.
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I need to stop reading photo threads...
No, actually what I really need is to get some powder like that next season! Great work guys 
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| brian wrote: |
| rob@rar wrote: |
| you definitely should have something fat in your quiver when conditions are this good! |
I kind of think that's the wrong way round. When conditions are this good, you could grab a pair of euro-carvers and have fun. It's when it's heavy, cruddy, crusty, etc. you really need to be fashionable. |
Brian, you are spot on although clearly fat skis are best for both. On Tuesday when it was a mix of powder and heavier snow I skied my old touring skis - Mythic Riders (88mm) and my new (faulty grrrr) 183 Bros (100mm) to do the comparison with the Kuro's. As you say, both are fine in the powder and ok, if hard work, in the heavy stuff but neither are anywhere near as much fun as the Kuro's in either conditions.
I would take my wife down banana on her Kuro's but wouldn't think about it if she was on her old 85mm freeride skis. It makes that much difference to anyone except a truly expert skier with faultless off piste technique.
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Sat in Heathrow at the mo - pretty glad I left my skis and boots in Canada, or I'd be jumping on a flight to the Alps and maxing my credit card rather than getting my connection home...
Oh, and my last 3 days in Fernie were pow days on my 75mm underfoot carvers - I started to replicate the movements (slashed/slarved turns) on them that I'm so used to on fatties, and it does actually work - just super intense work to stay balanced, and nowhere near as nimble. Had a moment where I tried to slide between tight trees and had to have an emergency sit down
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bobinch,
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anyone except a truly expert skier with faultless off piste technique
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You are too kind, dear sir, thank you.
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bobinch,
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anyone except a truly expert skier with faultless off piste technique
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You are too kind, dear sir, thank you. |
Bu99er, I thought I was one-nil up there but I think you have equalised!
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More great shots guys! Touring season hasn't even started for you lot, so good, you still got the corn to come! Wooo-hoooooo!
I refer to my original comment that April is easily the best time in Verbier.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Great Shots Bob!
Good to see the blue came in the end.
Kev
What happened about the helislkiing? Did they go?
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You know it makes sense.
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Arctickev, yep they went to Monterosa, were guided by the current world speed skiing champion, had the best heliski conditions of the season and did 4 helidrops! Me jealous, never.... I've got it on the menu for you next year!
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parlor, doing Arolla to Zermatt this weekend. Forecast is for blue skies...
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Poster: A snowHead
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Agree about renting fatter skis if there is a chance to get decent off piste conditions. Did Flaine the other week and just did not have the convidence to follow my mate boarding. Then after a good few hrs of snow decided to give it a go but hired some Scott Crusaders for a day......Wow what a difference...felt much better and had the convidence to go where i would not normaly bother.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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For Powder - Zermatt last Sunday afternoon and then Monday under blue skies offered great powder and rather a lot of fun on my fat K2 Coomback skiis!
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bobinch, but seriously...
My very first holiday in Verbier saw me (at a cracking 26 of age), a bro and his mate wake in resort with cloud as high as we could see - so we decide to go as high as we could find in case we could break out above it.
Imagine. There we are, never skied the area in our lives, breaking through the clouds above Attelas in the Mt Gele cable car into brilliant sunshine, 40cms of fresh and finding ourselves on top of Mt Gele.
Woo! Hoo!!! We yoyo'ed Mt Gele all day with a brief lunch stop. Powder lines every time. Fabulous.
Thus ensued a truly epic week, hooked up with a quasi local and did everything we could - stairway, rock garden, Vallon d'Arbi, bootpacking here, there and everywhere - culminating on the Friday in a stonking descent off the back of Mont Fort in fresh powder followed by a mighty fine lunch Chez Dany.
My point? This was 1992 and I was on 201 Rossi 7SKs, one of the first consumer "race department" skis. Skinny as you like. I think, about 66 under foot, and not a huge amount wider tip and tail. I could measure them tomorrow if you really want to know.
You don't need to be expert (we're competent) nor have faultless technique to ski deep powder on skinny skis. You just need to know what you're doing...
For completeness, it was one of the sweetest rigs I've had with fluoro cherry Look RCs and Tecnica TNTs in fluoro pink with green buckles to match my green SOS pants.
(Well, it was the early '90s..., do please cut me some slack on the fashion front...)
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under a new name, ahhhhh you still don't get it do you? And your 201 Rossis were gay. "Race Room" yeah, for the ladies maybe.
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parlor, been there, got it, forgot it, coming round again...
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Wow! Really hoping for snow as good as this when we get to the Alps this weekend. You make it look so easy, if only...
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gortonator,
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| I don't have any idea why more folks in Europe don't at least ski all mountain mid fats |
They do.
1. I think you'll find these days that most Europeans who own their own skis do. A triumph in many cases of marketing over sense  Those that you see not doing so are probably (and appropriately) on rentals (and may well only ski one week a year). Don't forget that European skiing patterns are (I think) quite different to US ones (at least in my limited experience of US ski habits).
2. "Europe" doesn't typically get the volume and type of powder that the US continental areas get. The photos above awesome though they are (I don't think so anyway, I wasn't there, but was skiing snow not sooo far away and it was lovely), don't appear to be showing the kind of bottomless, champagne powder you often see in UT, CO, MA, WY. So a different ski, is, IMV, appropriate. (If they are showing it, lusky bvggers, we didn't have it that bottomless in Cham).
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| They're fine things on and off piste |
Hmmm, not quite, They're a hindrance to learning if you're not technically terribly proficient. Definitely over 85mm, possibly over 80mm.
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Under a new name, your comments are interesting!
Of course you can ski down powder fields on thin waisted ski's (have you even seen apocalypse snow? one of the best ski/snow videos ever.
But the way you ski fatter skis is totally different, less tiring jumping type turns and more "floating higher speed turns".
An old mate of mine and the founder of the Northern Irish Fat Ski club used to ski salomon ak rockets 195's as his only ski, so moguls, off piste, touring and piste bashing (this was in 2000).
So when you say that you can ski without the best technique on and off piste with skinny ski's, you can of course do the same with fat ski's..... and in fact having done a few seasons and having the benefit of skiing everything from GS skis to short tin tips in all coniditions.
I think you are slightly missing the point on the way fat skis are skied and that this "new" way/style of skiing is totally different to the off piste experience you get from skiing thinner skis...
Ps.... for the record.... I'm Bobinch's brother although we are quite different in the way we ski and what skis we choose to ski (sadly I'm an unfit punter now!)
I've got to say a big thanks to all the snowheads who we skied with! Great people, great days out!
Kev
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