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I spent last weekend working on my freestyle technique - nothing too dramatic, just lots of riding switch, 180 jumps mid-piste, tail and nose pivots, the odd 180 off lips or kickers.
Inevitably, there were many failures and even when I did land things, I wasn't always smooth and so I was doing lots of upper body twisting and turning.
I now have a pain in my right pectoral and also a pain in the middle of my back between the shoulder blades (which feels like the mirror image of the first pain). I suspect that I have pulled some muscles in the process of leaping about / crashing.
So, does anyone have any experience of seeing a physio for this sort of thing? Should I do it? Is it a waste of time? Should I just try to rest it and let the muscles repair themselves?
(the pain was worth it though - the freestyle stuff is now immeasureably better than it was)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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If you're in North London, I highly recommend CoCo's (Finchley) for a Thai or Shiatzu massage... especially the Thai. After the masseuse has walked barefoot up and down the muscles along your spine a couple of times, I'd be very surprised if all your aches and pains haven't vanished completely...
(Who was it asking if there was anything we expats missed after moving to the back of beyond?  )
http://www.cocoslondon.com/
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ginger winger, my usual weekly regime is a couple of 9 mile runs, plus a 45 minute gym session, plus a 45 minute spinning class. I too usually rest when I've overdone it and have never been to a physio, but I thought that some here might have some experience and tell me a better way to recover.
I wondered whether people would be reluctant to "advise" but I am not going to hold anyone to anything and whatever I do is my own decision - cannot expect an accurate diagnosis on the basis of the above!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Tony Lane, put some timings to your regime for us and do you do any weights or resistance training?
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Tony Lane, I have never been to a physio either, If you do decide to visit one it would be interseting to know how you get on. A friend of mine had a sports massage in Alp D'huez this january and came back saying he felt like he had a set of new legs. A tad painful during but he claimed he Boarded the best he had done in yeatrs the following day. I suppose tying wouldn't hurt. 
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| Masque wrote: |
| Tony Lane, put some timings to your regime for us and do you do any weights or resistance training? |
the 9 mile runs are runs home at the end of a day at work - but i usually do them in 62-65 minutes (depending mainly on how lucky i am at traffic lights)
the exact details of the gym session depend on my mood but could include a combination of rowing, dumbell exercises, upper body weight machines, pull-ups/dips, cross trainer, some leg weight machines.
actually, now that you have asked for details, it occurs to me that I only started doing the pull-ups and dips again in the last few weeks. They used to be a staple part of my gym sessions but I hadn't done them for ages. Maybe I started a muscle tear doing those again and it was aggravated by the boarding? When I say pull-ups and dips, I use one of those machines that allows you to regulate how much assistance the machine gives you. I have it set so that it is easy to start with, but then i do 4 reps of 10 dips and 10 pull-ups, changing the hand position for the pull-ups with each rep.
if anything, the pain has got more acute today but maybe i have aggravated it during the course of the day as I've been pretty busy today.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Wed 23-03-05 19:54; edited 1 time in total
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I shall be starting a few months' physio at the end of March for my new bionic shoulder - Bourg St Maurice Les Arcs, a small town of a few thousand inhabitants most of the year, apparently has 17 permanently resident physiotherapists! I wonder why....
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the stupid thing is, we were visiting a friend of mine who is a physio in Courchevel!! In a typically stubborn male way, I did not think to ask her about it as I thought that it was just the usual muscular ache. Now that I have been home a few days, it does not seem to have eased and so I am wondering if it needs to be looked at.
PG, the massage recommendation looks good, but right now the idea of someone pummelling my shoulders or chest is not very appealling!
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Tony Lane, no pummelling (percussion strokes) whatsoever involved in either Thai or Shiatzu (you're maybe thinking of Swedish?) - I used to have a 60 or 90 minute session after a work out at the gym or a game of squash... it's energising, healing, in fact absolute bliss.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Tony Lane, I'm more interested in the timing between sesions and how much recovery time you're allowing between them.
DO NOT massage any area that you think has torn muscle or ligament or has ANY visible bruising.
I'd give yourself a week off your current practice and just use unloaded full range of motion (to discomfort) exercise . . . Tia Chi? To allow a semi-decent r&r time.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Yes - all competent masseurs establish at the outset if there are any known muscle, or other injuries, or health problems. That said aches and pains can be caused by other problems that can benefit greatly from massage, properly applied.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Tony Lane wrote: |
| my usual weekly regime is a couple of 9 mile runs, plus a 45 minute gym session, plus a 45 minute spinning class. |
Would that be with Alastair Campbell or Shane Warne?
Like PG, I'm a firm believer in sports massage.
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