 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm looking for Dynafit bindings that would be as strong and good as possible for fast and aggressive pist skiing, can anyone give me advice?? I'm thinking about buying Dynafit skis for touring, but want to be able to use them also in the pist for fast skiing... Is it even possible with their bindings? Thanks!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Yes. Well kinda, fast piste skiing is a relative value, how much do you weigh and how fast do you ski?
I haven't needed to ski my Dynafits on groomers all day, but during access (etc) I ski my Dynafits pretty fast on piste. Not sure I would hammer a mogul line at the same speed that do alpine bindings.
I know lots of people that ski Dynafits exclusively and have no worries.
DO make sure you're engaged properly. I think all Dynafit users have popped out at some point because they didn't click in properly - which could lead to loosing a ski or two at Mach loony.
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[quote="parlor"]Yes. Well kinda, fast piste skiing is a relative value, how much do you weigh and how fast do you ski?
Ok, thanks Parlor. I weigh about 60 kg, and I ski very fast. But I guess I should be fine. Can you still tell me which of the different Dynafit bindings you would recommend? Are there big differences between them?
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60kg. No problem.
I sat my CSIA Level 1 in Scarpa touring boots and the tour lite bindings (2002 model).
And I weigh 100kg
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Anything is possible but, if you value your knees then, I'd recommend you stick to normal alpine bindings while on the piste. Dynafits do not work like normal bindings and are NOT DIN rated. The numbers are only there as a guide. Also, they are quite 'faffy' and you will soon get frustrated trying to get into them while your mates are half way down the first piste.
For all your answers look here:
http://www.wildsnow.com/bindings/dynafit-backcountry-skiing-bindings/
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Snowfinn, at 60kg get barons...you won't be going tele in those...
okbye
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snowpatrol, you don't "insta-tele" in Dynafits. The only AT binding that goes tele are the old Titinals and any Freeride (inc + or Pro) that haven't been set up properly.
altis, do you have poor proprioception?
Snowfinn, the ST10 & FT12 are the freeride range. They can be used with brakes. They are pretty light and very strong. ST10 has DIN range 5-10, FT12 is 5-12. If you can find them the older models are called Comforts, before that they had Tri-Step but the toe isn't meant to be as good.
I don't know much about the Lites or Speeds, they are even lighter that the ST / FT range. You can't use a brake, DINs are only 5-10. I'm going to put a set on my full touring skis.
I'm still not sure how fast your fast is but at 60kg I wouldn't worry too much.
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parlor, what i also meant to say was.....get barons.....you won't look like a pu$$y in those 
okbye
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| parlor wrote: |
| altis, do you have poor proprioception? |
Not that I'm aware of.
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Snowfinn, the ST10 & FT12 are the freeride range.
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Thanks Parlor. But just one more question, what is the difference between the ST and the FT?
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Snowfinn, around 40 or 50 Euro if you shop smart. The real difference is in the DIN value, the FT12 go to 12 and the ST go to 10. There is a carbon fibre backbone on the the FTs but I'm not sure it does much...
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I broke my FT's after 8 days use skiing a bump line. I had used them 90% off piste but had hit 2 or 3 6-8 ft drops. Took them down bump line and the tow piece blew out about 15 m down. If you use them for touring and once in a while hammer some carving turns on piste no problem BUT they are easily broken with heavy abuse. I'm 6ft and weigh 76kg.
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stone88, you blew the toe piece or ripped it from the ski? Have you got any pics?
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You know it makes sense.
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Blew it out. It's still stuck firmly to the ski but when I click in, as soon as I put any pressure on, I click out again. My skis are out in val d'isere but I'm there on Sat so I'll try and get some pics
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stone88, Not sure if that isn't just a FT problem... I have the same problem as of day 1 with a set - did a small Ollie back onto a piste on day1 and both toes 'half-released' - most disconcerting. Personally I ski with the toes cranked up one notch towards locked, though obviously I cannot recommend this for the long-term health of anyones knees.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| offpisteskiing wrote: |
| stone88, Not sure if that isn't just a FT problem... I have the same problem as of day 1 with a set - did a small Ollie back onto a piste on day1 and both toes 'half-released' - most disconcerting. Personally I ski with the toes cranked up one notch towards locked, though obviously I cannot recommend this for the long-term health of anyones knees. |
Lou Dawson talked about that recently when comparing to the new onyx binding here. The Onyx binding might be a better half way house if your looking to ski aggressively.
Seems like plenty of people on TGR have had problems with the toe pieces when skiing bumps. Personally I don't think I'll ever go near dynafits due to reduced knee protection but I do have knackered knees.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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As I said, I've got older Comforts and I've skied them pretty hard (apart from in Moguls). This winter I've hit a few drops, up to around 25' and had no issues with the toes. I've only come out twice, once was because my toes weren't engaged properly, the other time, I hit a tree. As above ^ in gnarly terrain I do lock the toes out but most of the time I just make sure I'm clicked in safely.
IMO the Onyx is even more of a pain to get in to on steeps than the Dynafit. The only advantage of the Onyx is the tour mode can be engaged (easily) without taking the skis off, which, IMO, isn't enough of a bonus over the extra weight.
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