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When will it start to snow in Zell am see?

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We're heading there in early January and at the moment it seems milder than the UK. Is this likely to suddenly change and the heavens open with snow?

Also how far is Kaprun from Zell if we have no snow I guess we need to venture up to Kaprun.

Many thanks, great forum!
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Don't worry - it will be fine by then.

I'm going there on the 12th Dec - and I'm not worried ..... YET !

Kaprun is only about 20 mins on the ski buses - all included in the full area lift pass.
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bexman, Welcome to SnowHeads snowHead

A day is a long time in terms of mountain weather, let alone 6 weeks or so. Don't worry about what you can't change.

Zell is a beautiful resort ( Winter or Summer ), you have chosen well wink I would have thought the lifts at Kaprun are probably a 20-25 mins bus ride away from the centre of Zell. I've never done it on a bus, but it's about a 15 min drive in a car.
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bexman,
on the 28th November 2009 at 12:33 precisly!!

There are some very encouraging long range forecasts predicting a very cold winter on its way...
Things are a little warm and bright over here - but that is mainly due to a very warm wind that makes it way up from Italy. Local forecasts are predicting snow down to 1000m on Thursday (but these are not very reliable)

I really wouldn't worry though!
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Great thanks for the welcomes and advice guys!

I'm concerned as its my o/h's first time skiing and ofcourse the more snow the better!
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Zells slopes are all medows so it dosnt take much cover to get the lower slopes open.

Use the search bar at the top, Zell has been talked about at some length over the last few winters.
If you get the snow we all hope Zell is a picture postcard ski town, if not Kaprun is on the same lift pass
and only 30 mins from Zell Centre Station.

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I'm concerned as its my o/h's first time skiing and ofcourse the more snow the better!

bexman, welcome to Snowheads. I can relate to your concern - but although I have two new skiers starting at Christmas I'm not worried yet! And I don't think your quote is right. What beginners like is enough snow to have a nice surface on the piste, and then sunshine, sunshine, sunshine! They're not so keen on those days when it snows all day and the pistes become lumpy and challenging, especially when they can't see. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that good visibility is much more important to beginners than good snow. And a good instructor is even more important. They just need enough snow - a few inches is OK in a place where the pistes are pasture-based - and instructors are very good at taking them to the right place. snowHead
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bexman, I've always found nice snow in 1st week July Toofy Grin
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snow all around IBK today, i would estimate down to about 1700m, i can see a local huts i have spent too much time in and that looked white through my telescope. Hopefully the door will be closed shut with snow till next May (not really) - has been pretty mild but no panic at all. this is austria, if there is no snow between Zurs and Warth then the Alps are stone coloured.
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Still no snow in Zell yet, although the west of Austria seems to have plenty! At least its getting colder, lets hope it continues Very Happy
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Ooooh - now I'm getting nervous ! Still there's always the glacier and the BAR ! NehNeh Can't wait - roll on 12th Dec !

If this goes a bit awry then I've got Mayrhofen on 23rd Jan ! .... and La Rosiere in 4th April ! Bound to be some snow somewhere for me.

In fact I've never had a lack of snow in about 40 trips over about 30 year span - so surely the streak must continue ! snowHead
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Hope your luck contines beeryletcher!
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My first visit we where there leading up to Christmas and there was 2 feet in the town centre. I remember looking with interest the year
later and the run to the bottom of the city express lift didnt have ANY cover on it untill late Jan.

Fingers crossed for you
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the Schmitten webcams are showing some fresh snow @ the top. Also they have fan guns going as well, not sure how far down. Lower slopes may be bare for the next couple of weeks, but it should be fine @ the top
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Have a look at the SonnalmBahnen camera, looks like mid-winter. http://www.schmitten.at/de/service/panorama-cams/. It's at 1400m - 70% of the skiing is above this height.
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Those webcams look very wintery! I havent been to Zell before, and I'm guessing the ski schools are at the bottom but we've got over a month yet so fingers crossed for a nice covering of snow
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I guess there's some good news finally. Zell am See opens on Sunday Dec 6! Looks like they're getting snow now too
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today you cant even see the webcams for the amount of snow in kaprun - at glacier, on the maiskogel and even in teh village itself ! : snowHead

am off there on 23 jan - that time last year was the best snow ive skid on since the 3 valleys were totally dumped on in march 99, and the snow started almost at lyon airport !

zell shoudl be perfect snow for next week - enjoy !
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sev112 wrote:

am off there on 23 jan


Snap.
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Late October, early November was colder and snowier than normal, second half of November much warmer than normal. So far December has not been far off seasonal averages. If this continues then there should be no problem by January. Of course it may not be as good pre Xmas as last year or the year before (then again if it were to shift suddenly that could still be on the cards, but it has some ground to make up), but I really wouldn't worry about January at this stage. Smile
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sev112 wrote:

am off there on 23 jan


Snap.



Who you travelling with - i have teh family with me so we are off with Esprit, who who done us proud for the past 2 years with a little'un
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I'm off to Kaprun/Zell on the 16th Dec. I've booked and paid for the flights, transfers and hotel. So (snow or no snow) I'm gonna be there. This makes it absolutely pointless to look at weather forecasts. At least not until a couple of days before I fly. As a result I'm cool, calm and collected; completely devoid of stress and getting on with life until I go.








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Why am I reading this thread?
When is the snow coming? Please, I need snow!! Mad
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sev112, erm, Esprit.

Going with the family (2 kids), and a mate and his family (3 kids)
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DaddyLouLou,
Mara or Sonnenalp?
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Mara
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Snap - we'll see you somewhere in a queue at Gatwick i presume - at least they are sensible flight times, although no doubt an early start from Sheffield
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SCGB reporting 10cm at bottom and 40cm at top in Zell and some lifts now open. More forecast for this week and temps getting lower as week goes on. Plenty of snow in Kaprun now too.

They know I'm coming this Saturday - and are laying it on ! Hey - I just found out they've also restocked the Apres bars with my favourite Dunkel Weiss beers and Jagermeister ... oh and choccie rum too ... and ...... Razz
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sev112, £9 Travelodge the night before wink
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Mmmm, Hexengeist time. Out Kaprun 26th.

Was in the Sonnenalp in the summer, sadly been dropped from next year's summer brochure, was/is nice.
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Ghost Dog,
INtersting about Sonnenalp - speaking to the Esprit child care reps teh past 2 years (who have been very good) they say the summer season in Kaprun is as good as winter season - i find it hard to believe, but they fight tooth and nail to keep a position , and so i think that contributes to why we get (touch wood) good child care and reps . The Resort Manager for Esprit in Kaprun the past 2 years has been one of teh best i have come across in many years of skiing and summer trips.

i found Sonnenalp a bit cramped - it's a bit more traditionally Austrian, and the bus stop is RIGHT outside (as oppsed to 200m down the road from Mara) but something is just "comfy" at Mara. Having said that, the depressing news on day 1 last year was that the Esprit chef at Sonnenalp was Gordon Ramsay trained, and tha Mara one suprisingly wasnt ! Never mind the wine goes on and on ..........
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Has anyone heard how the snow is in Zell recently?
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greido, looks pretty decent, pics from today here:

http://alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=33605
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Yeah I've been keeping a check and the forecast Ive seen says its warming up a bit next week there. Ive been looking for a web cam in the Zell village itself, It would be nice to have a covering in the village but the slopes are obviously most important! I watched Ski Sunday this week and Val D'Isere looked very poor, very icy conditions and not much snow
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bexman,

http://flugplatz-zellamsee.at/de/Wetter_webcams/wetter_webcams.html

Best you'll get - 750m looking at the bottom of the slopes in Zell

Markus,

would have cut my right icicle off for conditions like that december 06! snowHead
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Thanks for that Matt, snow looks a bit sparce on the mountains! Lets hope they get some soon
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bexman,

135 upper 10 lower - must be way above average for the upper slopes for the time of year Puzzled Those pics look fantastic too!

Twas 40 upper - 0 lower when i was last there (06/07) and we were skiing to the valley - very good artificial snow!

zell is also home to my favourite ski run - the black 13 - great fun!

Just checked last years snow history (and last year was great) - its about the same this year.
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well got some photos, I'm still over here at the moment, but put them on msn skydrive if anyone fancies a look, the red to the bottom is closed but skiable, just not pisted, the black 13 is open but a bit rocky, theres snow cannons going 24/7 at the moment so no worries for xmas onwards, leaving kaprun tomorrow AM - nooooooo Crying or Very sad oh runs with trees = zell, runs without = kitzsteinhorn glacier

http://cid-ec073c370253abce.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Ski%20kaprun%5E0zell%20am%20see?authkey=iKfDJt7Nfxk%24&ct=photos
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Skied in Zell am See on Thursday. Pistes in good condition up top, with occasional stones. Very cold. Lower runs (and black 14) not yet open but, as tompringle says, the snow cannons are blasting away, so I expect they want to open them for the Xmas period.

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Thanks tompringle looks lie there's plenty there! Here's hoping for some more over Christmas
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