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Banff (Big 3) lift pass way OVERPRICED! Any discounted passes to be had?

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Hi folks,

I am to Banff in a week or so for a fortnight and have been incredibly shocked by the prices of their area passes. Going through their official website it will cost me and my girlfriend £920 (ish) for two sets of 10 out of 13 tickets (CAD $723 each). On top of this, we have been planning on having a day trip to both Panorama and Kicking Horse, seeing our total for lift passes on this holiday top well over £1000 (probably near £1100). I never in all my years of skiing heard of such extortionate prices for lift-passes. Last year, we did a two week tour of Colorado and only spent just over £600 on tickets!

Now then, I knew (or at least thought I knew) that I would be able to get discounted tickets by pre-ordering at my usual suppliers, Ski Safari. I ordered them last night for £140 cheaper but they rang me this morning to inform me that they would be unable to complete the order due to Banff stopping tour operators offering such tickets if they are not in conjunction with accommodation or flights. I then rang Ski Independence (following advice from a thread on on here from last year) who said they had the same restrictions places against them. This just seems unreal!

Does anybody on here happen to know of any remaining vestiges that may offer discounted tickets in advance, or of any discounted tickets to be had once in Banff? Also, does anybody happen to know how much the tickets will be on the day?

If anybody else has skiied there this season already, how did you get on with this?

Thanks for your time folks, I will look forward to hear any responses you may have.

Regards
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shenryo, Had the same thing before for LL/Banff and for Fernie. They really do like to fleece those coming from overseas for long holidays. Locals can get Louise Cards and things like that. It sucks. It might just be worth contacting the hotel you are staying at and finding out if they have any deals?

This is one factor in our family continuing to go to the US rather than Canada (after 4 trips to LL) for family ski holidays. We are paying about £1350 for passes for 4 of us (3 adult 1 junior) for 10 days in Utah.
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shenryo, if you take a day off the price for the big3 pass and do the Kicking Horse day it works out at about $20 more.

I'm going tomorrow, resigned to paying close to or full price.
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thanks for the comments folks; I am wanting to do a day in Kicking Horse and Panorama AS WELL as the 10 days on Big 3. They really are fleecing customers, it's a disgrace! I hope the skiing is worth is mind Shock

any more ideas folks?

also, is it easy to ski Nakiska on a day trip from Banff if we aren't driving? a shuttle or something?
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shenryo, I don't think I would bother with Nakiska (haven't been but a friend has endured a season there Wink ) Kicking Horse is unreal if the conditions are good.

This thread has come up quite a few times and unless people can get discounts through their tour op they usually end up paying full price.
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shenryo,

They are pretty pricey these lift passes. Is it really cheaper to get one big one than get individual day tickets for where you want to go? Not helped by the pound crashing against the canadian dollar. Two years ago when we moved here we got 2.05 dollars per pound. Now its about 1.65. When we came on reccie in March 2007 it was 2.35.

Coop do family packs for Nakiska and Panorama. These are very good value for families but not worth it unless you have a pile of kids individuals. Nakiska have a daily shuttle from Banff, picks up at hotels and is 64.95 for the day inc lift pass. It might be worth one day there. We ski it every weekend - it does have lovely blue groomers that will be empty mid week. It may also have a whole bunch of olympic atheletes from about 13 different countries there when you are there, which could be exciting. But its not a big hill, and it tends towards ice! but may be worth it for a day............
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thanks again guys; there are only me and my partner, no kids

any more info folks?
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shenryo, believe it not I ebayed off some tickets we over-bought once (long story). some gut from Warrington got a bargain. Worth a try . . .
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thanks for that, checked to no avail however Sad
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Why do you need Big 3 anyway? Why not just go to Sunshine, then do your day trips too? Plenty of terrain at SSV.
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...because LL is awesome. Norquay is pretty good too!
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Well yea but if you have a price point then you should consider the fact that SSV is still a big resort!! I haven't looked at prices for a few years but it will probably be cheaper to buy SSV tickets for 10 days and then visit LL when it snows. Or vice versa. Yes, Norquay has its charm but there is nothing there you cannot find at the other two. Agreed?
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interesting idea but when I am travelling all that way, I wan to sample all of the resorts. Plus, we are meeting people too Shock
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shenryo,

How ever you split your time - it still seesm cheaper to buy individually..............
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what do you mean gryphea? sorry, I don't understand
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shenryo,

I mean just buy day tickets at teh window of your chosen resort for that day. Looking at the multiday liftpasses for Big 3 they seemed to be about $80 per day. A single day ticket for LL and Sunshine I think about $76, norquay less and Nakiska less. So seems that single day tickets for whereever you happen to be works out cheapest....................
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gryphea, Dont think day tickets include the bus to resort do they ? Didnt seeshenryo, saying they had hired a vehicle, so will need the bus Smile
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yeah, I need the tri-area passes for the bus I am afraid
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Liveezy, much more at Lake Louise then Sunshine if you aren't carrying transceiver /shovel/ probe and a partner. Must sleep, skiing tomorrow... at Sunshine.
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Your right! The back bowls ar LL are incredible, i think it's white horn that's nice and steep aint it? The dive is fricking awesome on the right day and Goats eye, what can i say!!

To the OP, just buy the tri area pass, hit up Norquay for the park. Have fun!!
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It is massively expensive, but when you look at it it's no more expensive than some of the big French resorts - a 13 day Paradiski pass is 490 per person!! So it seeems to be in line with these "mega" resorts unfortunately! Without wishing to deprive the very company that I'm part of, of any bookings - to avoid massive lift pass prices try lesser known smaller resorts!!

(to also put things into perspective - £500 per 14 days works out around £35 per day, which is still better value than a couple of hours in a indoor ski centre or on a dry slope in the UK http://www.snozonemiltonkeynes.com/downloads/SNOzone%20MK%20Price%20List.pdf )
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Putting it in perspective, yes it's expensive, but only about £60 more than a 10 day Zermatt/Cervinia pass. You get 3 resorts and transport to them.
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It is expensive but as others have said - excellent skiing/patrol/avalanche control/etc., etc! Very Happy
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Alexandra, IMO the best.
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yeah, I hope you're all right about the quality of the place; prices or not, i am still really excited Smile I am just waiting on my concierge getting back to me to see if he can get them with any discount or not; I doubt it though.

time we're on the subject, do yo guys have any good recommendations for me whilst I am there; I have heard about Delirium Dive being worth a visit. I was also planning on doing a day's heli-skiing, but to be fair, this was when I thought I could get discounted tickets so I am not so sure anymore Sad

On a different note folks, I have a rather strange question some of you that know the area may be able to help me with. Do any of you know any particularly romantic spots on the mountain or elsewhere, or points of really dramatic proportions. I am actually planning on proposing to my girlfriend whilst we are there and 'am currently trying to figure out where the best place to do so may be Smile

Cheers folks
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shenryo, assuming you don't intend to do it in the first couple of days you should do a day at Lake Louise and a day at Sunshine and pick a spot, there really are so many unreal views. You could do it at Lake Louise (the lake, the ski hill and lake are about 10 minutes apart) but I guess that is kinda cliched. Oh, and delete this thread from your history in case your OH gets nosey.
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shenryo,

Wow. Posts like these always get a girl interested!!!

Couple of suggestions:

Top of gondola Lake Louise
Lake Louise itself on the lake (frozen) ice skating in front of Chateau and there should be an ice castle there I think at this time of year
Banff Springs hotel
Bow falls - Banff should be all icy frozen and cool
Johnston Canyon (outside Banff)
The Springs at banff if you can get there when its empty!!!
Heli-sking (you know you can't do it in the park right?)
Eagle Eye restaurant at KH on top of gondola
Earl Grey lodge, Panorama
View of 1000 peaks Panorama
Emerald Lake and Emerald Lake Lodge near field on way to Golden
Dog sledding near Canmore

Good luck!
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wow! thanks for the heads up folks, appreciate the responses

Basically, what I have thought so far looks something along the following lines. The first six days will see us skiing seperately; me with the GB Ski Club and my girlfriend will be in lessons. I have booked her a 3 day refreshers-type course in Sunshine for the first three days, followed by a Ski Club 3 Intermediate course starting on the Thursday (4th). On the Sunday, I think a day off for Laura may be needed after 6 full days of lessons so we are considering a dy trip or two, I like the sound of the nature tour (thoughts?) as I am an avid photographer too. We were thinking maybe nature tour in morning, followed by ice field tour in the afternoon; something along those lines.

Now then, clearly, if we did something along those lines I may have an opportunity to propose on this day off. Failing this, I was thinking the next day we could head over to Lake Louise, ski for the morning and some of the afternoon and I could either then make way to the lake or propose from the best vantage point on the hill (if you believe there may be somewhere dramatic and appealing enough?). I would then fancy joining a dog-sled tour as I think she would love this and it would add another memorable even to a hopefully memorable day. A sled ride around Banff also sounds appealing. I would then want to top this off with a fine meal at one of Banff's most recommened restaurants (maybe pre-book a bottle of Champagne or something like that?). I could of course carry a mini bottle of champage in my skiing back pack I am sure to toast directly.

Thoughts again? lol
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shenryo, the sled ride around Banff is horrific, especially if it is cold. Better going for a walk IME or there are horses and a cart kicking about which might be a little quicker (ie, not painfully slow and cold).
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Liveezy wrote:
Alexandra, IMO the best.
I can't argue with that... I tried some other places but I keep LL in my dreams even though the snow coverage doesn't (often) match up to other resorts.

I actually dreamed the other morning I was on Rodney's Ridge in light powder. snowHead Embarassed
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shenryo, given your itinery I think the Lake itself would be lovely... assuming she isn't some anti-capitalist mad'un like myself who starts ranting about the chateau looking like a prison being built on the shores of the lake. *and breathe*... maybe best to face the glacier? Laughing
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another vote for the lake.

I was proposed to on a balcony in megeve


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thanks, I have heard it is a beautiful location; also, my concierge has stated that there are some truly remarkable points at the top of LL itself - I will have chance to scout these out prior to us being there which is a bonus

can any of you guys recommend the dog-sledding tours? any particular one?
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so I assume that you actually go onto the lake? is it fully frozen at this time of year? i have heard that I would need to ski in the morning or something and then take a ten minute shuttle to the lake itself
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does anybody recommend spending one day skiing Nakiska?
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shenryo, The lake is a good 10 mins away from the ski hill. Yes you certainly can go on it. There are also brilliant views from lots of places in LL, which has often been voted one of the most scenic North American resorts.
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kids when younger ( 1 and 6) on Lake Louise - looking towards the Chateau
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A view from the top of the hill in Lake Louise
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it sure does look beautiful, thanks for that
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We're flying to Banff on Thursday, it will be our third year there and love it, the back bowls at LL are amazing.

Never actually made it to the lake ourselves but hope to this year, however when we've looked into it in the past I remember you need to be careful with the bus times. Unless things have changed there is no direct bus from Banff to Lake Louise Chateau, you need to get the bus to LL ski hill as normal then catch the bus out the the lake. You have to bear in mind that to get back to Banff you need to get the bus back to LL ski hill in time for the last bus back to Banff, which is about 4.15-4.30ish or you'll be stranded without alternative transport.

Delirium Dive is supposed to be an awesome place to ski, but is only open when enough snow has accumilated during the season (it is sheer rock) the last couple of years it hasn't opened until about March I think.

Hope this helps, have a great time.
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