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I’ve noticed a rather worrying growing trend, perhaps it’s always been there & these “whose fault” posts have drawn my attention to it.
I’ve noticed more & more that people who have stopped, when they set off, they do just that. They don’t look behind them to see what is coming, they just go.
I tend to ski like I drive, I look uphill when pulling into the side, when I do stop I do so at the side of the piste, I definitely look uphill o make sure it’s clear to set off.
I can only imagine what the roads would be like if we drove like some people ski.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Jonny996, +1
but I don't think it's a new thing.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I’ve had a couple of very close calls caused by exactly that; people stopped on the side of the piste suddenly re-entering without looking uphill first.
Very dangerous and I do think it’s got worse recently but I’m not sure why.
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Actually, maybe I do … it’s that some don’t even know the rules.
Case in point; father and small daughter stopped by the side of the piste. Father did look up; I saw him and I’m fairly certain he saw me. He told daughter she could go and she came straight into my path. Fortunately I was able to avoid her but it was a very sharp turn on a steep piste. As it was steep and narrow I didn’t stop to remonstrate with the father then and there and I didn’t find them later either so I don’t know what he was thinking but I would guess he simply thought that I was the one who needed to stop/slow to allow her to enter rather than that she had to wait.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Oh wonderful, another thread full of self righteous, whingeing old bāstards
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Sun 21-01-24 9:55; edited 1 time in total
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All skier/snowboarders should be taught the rules when they start learning.
The authorities should display the rules next to all lift pass offices and should publish them on piste maps.
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@welshflyer, re display and publishing, anywhere I’ve been recently does, I think, but who pays attention?
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@welshflyer, they do, and they are often on chairlift pylons as you pass them too. The rules were pointed out to me in ski school, but we also have some responsibility to make sure we know them even if they aren't. We wouldn't be driving a car without knowledge of the Highway Code.
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It’s always gone on, through forgetfulness or naievty, I have to remind my (passive skier) daughter to check first and wait for slope users to pass.
Self preservation at the very least … no wise person should mind being hit, when it’s completely avoidable.
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| Self preservation at the very least … no wise person should mind being hit, when it’s completely avoidable |
Really? 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Every lesson I give I always say. Look down to make sure what you are skiing towards (or not) and finally, look up the slope to make sure it is clear.
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Yep its always skiers that do this.
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You know it makes sense.
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I have a theory that as skiing/ boarding gets easier and YouTube is more accessible, more people just go to the slopes and work out how to get down them. No formal lessons for technique means no advice or etiquette.
Could blame it on the thoughtless youth of today, but they’ve been doing that since Plato so probably not.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Whitegoldsbrother wrote: |
| Oh wonderful, another thread full of self righteous, whingeing old bāstards |
Mods please change the thread title to “Sounding off”.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Orange200, good idea. For once I don't disagree with Whitegoldsbrother's remark. 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I try not to ski right to the edge of the piste, so if someone is hurtling towards me I don't shut the door and tend to look around more nowadays to try to be away from the loons. Maybe just getting older and wiser. 
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| Whitegoldsbrother wrote: |
| Oh wonderful, another thread full of self righteous, whingeing old bāstards |
If we ban self-righteous threads for whingeing old bastards then it's going to be awfully quiet around here
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@SnoodyMcFlude,
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Why are my ears burning 
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Someone sets off without looking no problem
Just click your poles at them
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You'll be fine if you ski assuming everyone else is a knob trying to hurt you. It's a smart way to drive too.
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The rules were pointed out to me in ski school
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I first learnt to ski in Switzerland (aged 15), next week in Austria then in France for many more. I can't remember an instructor anywhere saying anything about the rules. There were on the back of your piste map and displayed by the lifts, but I cannot ever recall an instructor saying anything.
One of the things that impressed me most about my daughter's race club was that they ran a session on the rules every year in the run up to Christmas to make sure that all the youngsters knew what to expect from their upcoming holidays as many of them would never have skied on snow before.
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It’s okay to set off without looking upslope, as long as you click your poles to give notice.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I was in Avoriaz a couple of weeks ago and noticed some shocking skiing etiquette. Folks stopped having a chat mid piste on the downslope (out of sight) on a fast blue into an epicentre of lifts.
I have only been skiing for 2 years so maybe I am not experienced to talk but I was really taken back by folks in Avoriaz versus other areas that I have been to. The speeds of folks on runs into town is always a pet peev of mine and it was all to frequent there unfortunately.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Moorzee10 wrote: |
I was in Avoriaz a couple of weeks ago and noticed some shocking skiing etiquette. Folks stopped having a chat mid piste on the downslope (out of sight) on a fast blue into an epicentre of lifts.
I have only been skiing for 2 years so maybe I am not experienced to talk but I was really taken back by folks in Avoriaz versus other areas that I have been to. The speeds of folks on runs into town is always a pet peev of mine and it was all to frequent there unfortunately. |
On a well known ski clinic once in France, they had a horrible story on what happened to the someone loitering like that downslope from a roller. The loiterer lost their life, I won’t mention how.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I fairly often observe people who come to a stop above congested pistes, or behind unpredictable groups (e.g. a parent with two or three beginners) or people who've had trouble—and then set off without looking up. I can understand it, to a degree, because it can be frustrating when you stop out of consideration and then can't start again because of others tearing down the pistes without showing the same consideration. I suspect that a fair number of people in those situations think of themselves as 'waiting' rather than as having 'stopped', in order to believe that they don't have to look up before setting off again (or use a similar kind of reasoning to justify doing so). I've certainly taken to allowing for the possibility that stopped skiers who have stopped will restart without giving way to those who are under way, or in some cases without looking up at all.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Courtesy is a rare thing to find these days, on or off a ski hill
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| SnoodyMcFlude wrote: |
| Whitegoldsbrother wrote: |
| Oh wonderful, another thread full of self righteous, whingeing old bāstards |
If we ban self-righteous threads for whingeing old bastards then it's going to be awfully quiet around here |
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