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What makes a good ice ski?

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In December, I hired a pair of Salomon xwing Tornado. It was very icy that week (turn, slide 20 yards, turn) but the xwings were really very capable on ice, much more than skis I have used before.
It got me wondering what makes a ski good on ice? Any thoughts?
Mick
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Sidewall bevel angle.
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good sharp edges? That's what the racers use isn't it?
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Stiff flex, torsionally stiff, acute edge angles, sharp edges, good technique.
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penster, if you're typically hiring, what you've probably noticed is the difference between a well maintained ski and a poorly maintained one.
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and a narrower waist, surely (ceteris paribus)
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horizon, yes, losing a bit of weight always helps.
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Metal laminate layer and sidewall construction? I have K2 Burnin luvs and they laugh in the face of ice!
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The driver
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The driver & gear combo. Cuting turns and speed control on very steep and icy slope is the most difficult skiing challenge IMO.
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MG, nah, skiing bumps well is more difficult
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under a new name, skiing icy bumps well is more difficult again Smile
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wat little tiger, said
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Sideshow_Bob, absolutely
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Heated edges.

TBH I can't beleive that someone like Dynastar or Rossi with their love of gizmos haven't tried this. If however they wish to schedule an expenses-paid development meeting with me in Cham to explore the idea, they can PM me anytime...
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We talking proper Scottish blue ice , European ice (very hard piste) or USA ice (hard piste)
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kitenski, water-injected race courses Smile
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Cunners, umm, without trying to find out what I actually do recall of thermodynamics have you any idea of how much energy you'd need? Biiiiig battery or long mains cable I'd think...

kitenski, I would suspect that the OP was talking European ice.
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Cunners, so, let's estimate how much ice needs to be sublimed

a run of 500m length - all ice

ski penetration of 2mm each side

volume = 500 * (0.002^2) /2

it's going to get complicated - once upon a time I could have worked this out in my head... Embarassed Embarassed
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they laugh in the face of ice

they might laugh in the face of hard-packed snow. I find it hard to believe that on ice, properly so-called, anything other than sliding flat and hoping for something better soon will do you much good.
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Cunners, umm, without trying to find out what I actually do recall of thermodynamics have you any idea of how much energy you'd need? Biiiiig battery or long mains cable I'd think...


It's not whether it works, it's whether it sells
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pam w, hmmm, I once (1990) carved a perfect pair of railway tracks on a perfectly clear blue-ice piste (a river had run across it then it had frozen hard). So it can be done...

Cunners, you have a point. This time next year, Cunners, we'll be millionnaires!
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under a new name, this time the year after that I will take your market with ultrasonic-vibrating edges.
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