 Poster: A snowHead
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I've seen the one at TGR and Citizenski reviews but haven't been able to find much more. Anyone have any comments on the Goliath Sluff? I'm most interested in the 174cm length. Thanks!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I got a pair of these in 184 last season and enjoyed them a lot. As the widest skis I have owned they were a step up from anything else float wise in the soft stuff but still nice and agile and happy in fairly tight trees. On piste the extra width made them feel a bit sluggish and heavy but they did grip well. Any specific you want to know?
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Thanks for the reply. I'm mostly interested in how they perform in crud and the feel of the ski. I usually ski at moderate speeds on steep terrain and open bowls at major US resorts (Alta, Snowbird, Squaw Valley, Jackson Hole). I like a ski that is responsive, has good snow feel and gives the rider a lot of feedback as opposed to damp, smooth ski. I also like an agile, lighter feeling ski that is easy to turn.
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By the way, the skis I'm looking to replace are 6 year old Atomic R:Ex 168cm which I've liked very much. I'm looking for something a bit wider and a better performer off piste in soft snow and powder. My on piste skis are 165cm Fisher RX8 which I'm also very happy with.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I also like responsive skis as opposed to overdamped feelingless skis and i think movement skis in general are like this. They are also usually pretty light for their dimensions. My sluffs are definately the easiest skis i have used for cruddy snow.
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moderate speed wont necessarily get the best out of Movement's, they love being opened up. Also they're relatively stiff. Not sure about the Sluff, but it's bigger brother (Goliath 191) and smaller brothers (Thunder, Gladiator) are pretty stiff, though I thought I read somewhere that the sluff was friendlier. Might be a consideration though depending on your size / style. The gladiator is the best all-around ski I've ever ridden and i think the sluff aint too different to it (wider, not a full twin, but similar characteristics beyond that i reckon??)
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Hmm Sluff was a bit small for me but I loved the 191 Goliath, seriously sick ski! Did'nt find them stiff at all, really responsive and quick from edge to edge and relatively easy to ski, great float in the pow...you might find my review on them if you look hard enough! I've skiied Squaw quite a lot (lived there for 6 months) and think they will be pretty well suited to the terrain you'll find there?
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My Sluffs are softer than the Thunders I had before and easier at slower speeds
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We did a pair in an issue last season: here's the unedited copy. The Sluffs are the same, as far as we know, as the Goliath Sluffs.
Movement Sluff 2010-model skis www.movementskis
Movement are a Swiss-based company who aim squarely at the freeride sector of the market. Producing what they’d class as ‘skiers skis’ (and we’d tend to agree with them) means you’ll not be making your first turns on a pair, though plenty of instructors and guides have been using them for several seasons. They’re also ridden by our trio of semi-tamed insane Scots; Jamie and Gav MacKay and Ben Thorburn. That’s not to say you HAVE to flip a cliff to ride a pair. It’s just nice to know you can.
The 2010 Sluffs were called ‘Goliath Sluffs’ when they appeared last year. At the test I got on the older models and, in typical confusion, muddled them up with the girder-like Goliaths. After a couple of runs I thought that I was a riding god and nearly retired on the spot, before realising that the wood-cored Sluff derivative has a softer flex and is altogether more forgiving. Not by any means a twiddlestick, but a whole lot easier to use. With 99mm underfoot and a longish nose, plus a 23m radius, we’re looking at a sort of superfat GS ski for all-mountain-to-pow.
The longish turn radius and stiffer tail means you need to be one grade of legs better than, say, a Scott Mission to be fully relaxed all the time, though you could take that as a challenge. After a couple of vigorous days dismantling Meribel’s piste and off-piste areas, it became clear that I wasn’t being totally toasted by the Sluffs and, with a bit of input, I could stay in touch with skiers a whole lot better and have a ball at the same time. As with most tosionally-stiff skis with a bit of sidecut and decent flex, these engage well enough on piste and can be counted as true all-rounders.
Verdict
Great base gives fantastic glide properties, sensible shape lets you make the most of the mountain and sufficient width makes off-piste easy peasy. If you have an idea how to drive a ski through a turn and want something for everywhere these could well do it for you. Pricing should be fair; it has been up to now.
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Prosper, I tried these in Engelberg last year in some 1 day old heavily skied powder turning mogully. They felt stiff in the tails and threw me all over the place in the bumps. Maybe it was the conditions but they actually felt stiffer than my old 186 Legend Pros. I was planning on trying the 191 Goliaths but I was scared off by the Sluffs. I'd agree with Brian that these need to be skied hard to to get the best out of them. I have skied a pair of 184 Yaka Jam's (my brothers) and would agree that Movement skis are definitely on the lively side vs the Dynastars which are much more damped.
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Thanks to all for the replies. It sounds like a really good ski for me. I've purchased a pair in 174cm with Marker Griffon bindings and am looking forward to getting them on the snow. I'm post my impressions after riding them a few times.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Just saw this thread and thought I'd resurrect it as I was in Avoriaz this weekend and tried a pair of 181 Sluffs at the ski test.
I thought they were simply the most fun I'd had on a ski in a very long time.
They love to go fast and seemed to forgive me for just about all of my faults!
So after the test I was pretty happy to buy a pair but just thought I'd check reviews first.
My problem now is that all the reviews I wonder if they're too good for me! I'm new to this going all over the mountain lark and therefore don't want something that's going to stretch me everytime I put them on but they just felt great to me.
At the end of every run I had a grin from ear to ear! After a couple of hours of getting used to them I also thought they were good on the piste!
So my question is should I just ignore the reviews and get them or are there others skis out there that will give me that same grin??
I also tried a pair of black crows (can't remember the name though), Salomon Shoguns which I found gave me no confidence at all at speed) and Scott Crusades which I did feel were probably for a better skier than me!
I'm 95kgs and 173 if that helps!
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to go fast and seemed to forgive me for just about all of my faults!
So after the test I was pretty happy to buy a pair but just thought I'd check reviews first.
My problem now is that all the reviews I wonder if they're too good for me! I'm new to this going all over the mountain lark and therefore don't want something that's going to stretch me everytime I put them on but they just felt great to me. |
In my personnal opinion a ski that pushes you & ensures that you have to ski well on it can be nothing but a good thing. Surely if you're in the position where you're learning this has to be good all round.
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| At the end of every run I had a grin from ear to ear! After a couple of hours of getting used to them I also thought they were good on the piste! |
I would have thought these 2 statements further to the possibility the skis themselves will help improve your technique have got to be all of the answer you need when buying a pair of skis?
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You know it makes sense.
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fran4short, can't argue with your logic 
I was just scared by the reviews. I know my level and I would argue that this ski is not aimed at me going on the reviews. But I can't argue with the test!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Will S, ski more, read online reviews less 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Right, job done, gonna get the 181 Sluffs, now just to find a stockist in Geneva... Oh, and test the Line Prophet 100s first.
Is it any wonder my wife calls me a Faffer!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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no, it is not. You are so close to making a decision but along come the prophet 100's ... perfect stall ... in geneva it could take a week or two to find them ...plenty more time to consider your decision.
just buy them, if you like the prophets well, there is always next year or end of year sales
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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