 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi i am looking at purchasing a ski jacket but it a shoftshell but i dont know what a shoftshell is?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Pretty much 'ronseal' i.e. does what it says on the tin i.e. it's a jacket that doesn't have a hard outer. The hard outer provides the full water/snow proof lining, snow skirt and a heavier layer of wind resistance, and therefore people often wear a soft-shell under a hard-shell jacket. I found a soft-shell, base layer and hard shell outer is a great combination for most conditions last season, but would switch to just a soft-shell for spring skiing. Not all soft-shells have the same water / wind resistence however and I have one that's about 10-20% warmer than another.
HTH
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Cheers bertie do you think they will be suitable for the colder conditions of canada and do you think it could be used as a main jacket
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| chelt881 wrote: |
| Cheers bertie do you think they will be suitable for the colder conditions of canada and do you think it could be used as a main jacket |
Never skied canada, but I'd think not myself - I'd be looking for a warm ski jacket which i'd possibly wear ontop of a soft-shell or other middle layer, on top of my base layer.
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I'd agree - a soft shell is only an outer layer in guaranteed fair weather. It's not really a main jacket on its own. They look cool though.... 
Dave
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soft shell covers such a multitude of fabrics now and hard shells are getting softer...
i actually think that soft shell is perfectly ok for cold weather. the conditions where it can fall down are when it is very wet because softshell clothes often don't have taped seams
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| Arno wrote: |
| i actually think that soft shell is perfectly ok for cold weather. the conditions where it can fall down are when it is very wet because softshell clothes often don't have taped seams |
Once again it depends, my Arcteryx soft shell is as waterproof as their hard shell. This is what they told me when I specifically asked:
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| There is no difference in waterproofness of any of our Gore jackets but there will be a difference in the overall breathability with the Sidewinder being better at moving the moisture from your body away from your skin and outward which in turn helps keep you dry. |
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With modern material and technologies, I wonder if saying soft or hard shell is still an accurate description and does not just add confusion or lead away from the real issue, which IMV is what layering system is best suited to what conditions.
With modern jackets, I'd say "thin" or "softshell" (as people call them) jackets would only be unsuitable in extremely cold conditions...
A lot is down to personal preferences,,
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You know it makes sense.
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I try to keep up with material technology but I still get confused by Arcteryx softshells vs the typical softshell:
1. "Typical" softshell: priority on breathability over waterproofness compared to hard shells (see first link posted by frank4short above).
2. Arcteryx softshell: just as waterproof as their hard shell but less breathable. (ie exactly the other way around).
Of course, there are probably many other companies making softshells of the "Arcteryx" type. There should really be two categories here.
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