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Heading off for a family week from April 3 and staying at 1550 with Esprit.
I did my research at the time of booking, but would like Snowheads humble opinions as to the likelihood of snow, crowds, me going broke, and Courchevel in general.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Courchevel is one of the best resorts in the Alps. OK, 1850 has been taken over by the Russian Mafia, but it's always been the expensive part of the domain. The sking in late season is often superb, I was there in late April once and it snowed for 2 1/2 days. April is never usually that crowded, you're missing the French school holidays, so it should be terrific.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Peter Leuzzi, We did La Tania in very late March a couple of years ago....the snow was shabby low down but still great high up and all the links across the 3V's were still open so access to the white stuff at Val T was easy. You should be o.k.
As to the chances of going broke....very high! We paid 20 euros (yes 20!) for a half pichet of wine at lunchtime a couple of weeks ago. Our mistake, we didn't ask the price first!
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Briefly:
snow - no problem.
Crowds - ditto.
Broke - likely, but not inevitable, esp at lower resorts.
Courchevel in general - fantastic resort for intermediates.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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That's all very promising. Some further questions if I may.
Where is La Tania in relation to 1550, 1650 and 1850?
What other resorts can be skiied from there within reason?
homphomp - be grateful you only ordered the half! I have heard 1850 is mega expensive, but is it like that throughout?
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1550 is the cheapest of the three main areas. The Bar (owned by Pleisure holidays but for anyone to drink in) has the cheapest prices for beer and you can get sweet flavoured vodka shots for two euros a pop or 12 for 10 euros. It is however a pretty small place and so can get pretty crowded at times.
1850 is by far the most expensive but you shouldn't need to eat there so it won't be a problem. If you go out there on the lash the slide back down the red run to 1550 in the early hours is a great laugh! (buses run until around midnight)
Resorts you can get to all of the Courchevel bits - 1850, 1650, 1300 - 1650 is the hardest to find your way to on piste. The other main resorts of the 3v's Meribel and Val Thorens plus La Tania.
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Brilliant stuff. Thank you all.
Now give me the bad stuff - what's going to p%^&* us off?
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One lift to 1850 and from there you can get anywhere in the 3V by lunchtime (probably, bit of a way to Val T far side from there.)
La Tania is up to the top and down again, but well worth it as a ski.
We are medium intermediates (upper beginners?) and we get all round the 3V without too many problems. Val T for lunch and back would be a feasible day's skiing. Meribel easy, but will be slush at that level by April.
There are cheaper places, but moutain restaurants are dear and rare.
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Chris Bish,
So take lunch with us?
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Up to you. Ever at a really suave place like Cap Horn or the Bergeries at 1850 you can get a meal for €15 or so. We were well received there. If you would like it I'll send you via PM a copy of my "ski-log" from last year which was written for members of the group to take home with the photos. You might find it interesting. Let me know.
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Chris Bish
Please do.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Hey that was quick! I'm off to the same place on Sunday with the same people plus 2 more, so you can see we like it.
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Even quicker this time!!
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You know it makes sense.
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I'm a little slower this time, but I've PM ed my ramblings. MacDaddy used them back in Jan. He might have more recent info, though was mostly on the Belleville side.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Peter Leuzzi, There is a picnic area at the bottom station of the Saulire gondola, just to the right as you get to the top of the Verdons lift. Good if you've brought a baguette along with you, there is also a supermarket in 1850 right at the foot of the slopes which i think is closed right at lunch time but with a sandwich shop next door which is very reasonable. It is inside so rather souless but CHEAP. Skiing wise I'd head from 1550 up to 1850 on the old 'egg' cable car then up Verdons and up the Saulire gondola (very fast and Combe de Saulire red run down is great). From there you can ski into Meribel/Mottaret or back into Courchevel. Cheap(er!) mountain restaurants in Val T or Les Menuires are easy enough to get to by taking the 3 stage gondola up from Mottaret (can't remember what it's called!). It is surprisingly easy to get from Courchevel to Val T if you are all of a reasonable standard. If you ski into Les Menuires I think that Mont de la Chambre offers some of the best skiing in the 3Vs. Do the Cime de Caron red run in Val T too, great views from the top!
Have a great time!
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Poster: A snowHead
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I mean the long (and often deserted) runs down from the top of Plattieres (the 3 stage lift from Mottaret which i couldn't rember in my last post!) in Les Menuires and then up La Masse on the other side of Les Menuires. I'm always getting those 2 mixed up. Anyway you won't go far wrong for some great skiing there!!!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Yes, and I like the restaurant at the top of La Masse too.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thank you all. Now a couple more questions.
Does anyone know what extra-ski activities are available? Bars, restaurants, cafes, crack dens, lap dancing etc don't count in this regard - its more about the kids 2 and 5. Stuff like swimming pool, ten pin bowling, ice skating etc
To reiiterate we are staying at 1550, and assuming there are things they will want to do at the other Courchevel resorts, how difficult is it to access by bus? In general is the bus system pretty reliable....or is it like London!
Thanks again.
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Chris Bish, are your "ramblings" suitable for public snowHead consumption?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Pete, they go on a bit. It's mostly gossipy stuff about what we have done in the day. I'll PM you a bit of the Les Arcs log and you'll get the idea.
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the buses run very frequently and reliably, so it's pretty easy to get around from one resort to another ... extra mural activities: skating rink in the fourm shopping centre at 1850, for swimming try going along to the Crystal chalet hotel new solarium (jardin alpin bubble, G2 stop - you can see the hotel out of the lift just before you get out), offer reception a few euros and you should be in. the public swimming pool is at the Combe between 1550 and 1650 but is half in- half outdoors so is closed in the winter. Best of all is the squirrel run in the Forum shopping centre - there's a little climbing wall and a fantastic sort of aerial assault course and tarzan swing, all run by the Bureau des Guides so open in the evenings after they've stopped guiding. We have to save it for a treat or the small people would bankrupt us pretty fast ... I think there's a bowling alley in there too, combined with a pretty low-life looking (yes, even in 1850) slot machine arcade. and there are often events happening in the early evening on the snow - firework displays, freestyle competitions, europop discos ... you'll see posters all over the place if anything is happening that week. come to think of it, we'll be in 1650, adn it's Easter, so there should be something good happening. Oh, and congratulations on choosing the best ski resort in the world IMHO ...
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poma,
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congratulations on choosing the best ski resort in the world IMHO
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Don't get much better than that. Looking forward to it and thanks for the kiddie info. Come to think of it, if you are there same time perhaps you'd like to take my children to see these attractions first hand!!!
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um ... tempting offer but I've just realised 3rd April is the day we leave (really). I forgot to mention the luge run - from 1850 down to 1550 so you just take the bubble up, sledge down, repeat ... truly terrifying and not to be contemplated without helmets and children firmly under adult control
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Chris Bish, i'm taking a group to Les Arcs - any ramblings you have on the place would be much appreciated, if you wouldn't mind PM them to me
many thanks in advance
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Chris Bish, thks for that
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Really must go home now and pack my new snowheads T-shirt.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Hey guys need help on this one. We are going to Les Arcs from March 14 to 19th. We are driving
from Lyon. I have got another friend who could not get a cheap flight into Lyon (flying from Toronto),
she can only get one into Paris or London. What is the best way to get to BSM from either of those
cities. I understand there is a train that goes straight to BSM. What is the timing and cost? Website?
Also, how easy will it be for her to get up to Arc 1950 from BSM? Thanks.
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sawni, go to www.raileurope.co.uk or www.raileurope.com from the US. Trains direct from London to BSM or via overnight sleeper from Paris. Paris is probably the easiest option. Trains leave Gare d'Austerlitz around 10.20 PM arrive in BSM 06.30AM.
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