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Snowboard boots with packed down liner (I think)

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi everyone,

I have used Salomon Symbio snowboard boots for the last 2 seasons, but all in all not much more than 2 weeks.
They're good beginners boots and incredibly comfortable.
But at the end of last season it felt as if the liner had somehow packed down, i.e. my heel felt a bit too loose.

The liner cannot be removed as far as I can make out, and its specs are:
The liner is engineered with multidensity foam all around the footbed resulting in incredible comfort.
Autofit: Flat and full length high-density memory foam, located in the sensitive areas of the foot is self molding and adapts itself automatically to the rider’s foot.

I don't really want/can buy new boots this season.
So what are my options?
(I am thinking of an insole, if I can find a suitable one, as a cheap interim solution.)
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My friend has these boots, 2 seasons is good enough if his are anything to go by, they are falling apart on him but he has used them for 50+ days now, personally i would bin them, they seemed very soft from day 1... do whatever you need to buy a new pair (a good sale pair can be had for £75-£100)
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geeo,

Thanks for the reply.
Mine are still in very good nick and not showing any signs of falling apart. But I am not a heavy user... After 30 years of skiing I have only taken boarding on in the last 3 so I am still a lower intermediate and the soft flex is suited to my level at the moment (they were correctly advertised to me as beginner/intermediate boots).
The problem isn't major (yet) and to progress I'd rather spend my limited budget on a new board at this stage, hence me looking to try and help the boots through another season...
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Kruisler, When you say your heel is loose, do you mean you're getting heel lift?...have you tried sticking some footbeds in? I had a pair of Burton Motos that did a similar thing after a couple of weeks, the footbeds seemed to help a bit. Cheap option too.
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joydivision,

Exactly, yes. And I defo had no heel lift when I bought the boots.
Glad to hear the insole/footbed idea can be done...
I am wondering if the rest of the foot/liner might then get a bit too tight though..
And is anyone has recommendations for insoles/footbed that would be ideal.
That'd have to be reasonnable cheap though as , as per what geeo said, boots can be had sub £100...
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One of the boot guys can probably chip in - but in my experience you can usually rebake snowboard liners to get a refit at least once. May not be the case with low end or integrated liners (where you might end up melting all the glue holding the outer shell together)

Otherwise maybe glue in some J bars?
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fatbob wrote:
Otherwise maybe glue in some J bars?


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Kruisler, I can't remember what footbeds I used....all I can remember is that they were orange and I got them from 2Seasons.....I still have them somewhere in the loft so i'll try and dig them out.

I didn't have a problem with the rest of my foot becoming tighter, IIRC they are slightly tapered so that the sole at the heel is thicker than at the toes. I guess your laces would allow for any adjustment in the front part of your foot.

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fatbob wrote:
Otherwise maybe glue in some J bars?



I think they are little J or banana shaped bits of plastic that you fit somewhere above the heel/ankle area to help prevent heel lift. I lot of boots come with them intergrated now. Not sure exactly how they work though.
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joydivision,

Are you my guardian angel???? Toofy Grin
(I work close to a 2seasons shop and shall make my way there soon..)
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joydivision wrote:
Kruisler, I can't remember what footbeds I used....all I can remember is that they were orange and I got them from 2Seasons.....I still have them somewhere in the loft so i'll try and dig them out.

I didn't have a problem with the rest of my foot becoming tighter, IIRC they are slightly tapered so that the sole at the heel is thicker than at the toes. I guess your laces would allow for any adjustment in the front part of your foot.

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fatbob wrote:
Otherwise maybe glue in some J bars?



I think they are little J or banana shaped bits of plastic that you fit somewhere above the heel/ankle area to help prevent heel lift. I lot of boots come with them intergrated now. Not sure exactly how they work though.


Yep the little foam bananas (no not the haribo ones) - some Burtons come with them so you ought to be able to find a shop that will sell you some for a token amount.
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Kruisler,

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joydivision,

Are you my guardian angel????


You're assuming I know what I'm talking about! wink

Right, these are the footbeds I stuck in my burtons (I couldn;t find them on the 2 seasons website, so call them before rushing down!):

http://www.snowboard-asylum.com/cgi-bin/psProdDet.cgi/704029%7C%7C@cFootbeds@bConform'able%7C0%7Cuser%7C1,0,0,1%7C8%7C

I don't remember them being that expensive though!...I've had a look at mine and can confirm that they do taper slightly from heal to toe.

I did notice that 2seasons are selling Salomon F22s for £109!! gotta be worth a look
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joydivision,

Thanks again. A foot bed is what I'll go for.
The F22 are good but I am (really really really...got it's hard..) willing myself to spend my money on other things. Luckily they don't seem to have my size..
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Kruisler, how's about taking boot and foot along to someone like CEM
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kitenski,

I thought about it (and might still do it) but I feel like I might "waste" their time, i.e. really not wanting to spend a lot of money on this and I don't think they'd necessarily get a fair return on the time spent on me (hence the question here first)
When I do get a new pair next year, i'll spend the time and money required.
But at this point I think a new board is what would benefit me more and that is where my "provisional" budget going to.. Toofy Grin
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Kruisler, why not ring Colin and ask him, I'm pretty sure he does footbeds, and I'd prefer a properly fitted foot bed at a similiar cost to a non fitted one from a non specialist!!
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kitenski,

Colin is a bit far from me unfortunately, but there are a couple decent of ski shops in my area and I might might pop in there for advice..
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In the end I went to one of my local ski shop (Skee Tex in Battlesbridge). They took the liner out, stuck some pads on the outside either side of my achilles heels....
Problem sorted for the princely sum of £5... Very Happy
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