 Poster: A snowHead
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rob@rar has suggested in another thread that lessons indoors in a snowdome could be as expensive as lessons outdoors in a resort. It's been a while since we did lesson costs and of course we have had the fluctuation of the Euro/other foreign currency to contend with, so I wondered if it would be interesting to whizz through any rates that people may know of - after all we've done beer costs - which are important, but I'm sure we would all agree that so are lesson costs. When I say resort cost, I am looking at purely the cost of the lesson, not taking into account the costs in getting there (I guess that applies in the UK as well). I guess for comparison we could perhaps look at an hourly rate for all types - worked out pro-rata from a longer lesson if hours don't apply - but maybe we should say how long a session the extrapolation is from - the lesson should be on the basis of a standard on-piste session for the competent mid range skier looking to improve technique, rather than any specialist subject like an off piste session etc. all prices should be from the last 08/09 ski season or new 09 prices if known (please state which)
Hourly rate - private lesson - snowdome UK (no need to state which one - as I don't think that would be fair)
Hourly rate - group lesson - snowdome UK (no need to state which one - as I don't think that would be fair)
Hourly rate - private lesson - dry slope UK (no need to state which one - as I don't think that would be fair)
Hourly rate - group lesson - dry slope UK (no need to state which one - as I don't think that would be fair)
Hourly rate - private lesson - resort - please state country
Hourly rate - group lesson - resort - please state country
To kick off I paid £50 Swiss Francs per hour for private lessons in Switzerland in the 08/09 season
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Megamum, it's late, it's too hard - maybe tomorrow...
you said to state the resort - which resort was yours? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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A one and a half hour driving lesson with a qualified driving instructor has just cost me £41.50.
A golf lesson cost me £20.00 for 30 mins.
Labour for my car service is £120/hour
My Lawyer is £195/hour
My ski instructor gives tips for free 
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You need to factor in quality. I've had some lessons which would have been too expensive even if they had been free. On the other hand the best ski instruction I had cost over £500 just for for course. No point in paying for lessons if they don't make a significant difference to your skiing.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| .....To kick off I paid £50 Swiss Francs per hour for private lessons in Switzerland in the 08/09 season |
Um, £50 of ChF50?
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Megamum, seems very reasonable indeed. I have paid €60 - before some discount for being a sH- per hour in France (money very well spent). So if you think the instruction was helpful, I'd say you had a good buy.
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Megamum, to make any kind of valid comparison, I think you would need to state resort as well as country. The price paid per hour in Resort X is unlikely to be the same as one would pay in, say, Verbier or Zermatt...
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The standard of teaching I have observed at snowdomes looks patchy at best but I'll leave it up to people who have actually had instruction to comment on the quality - I know I would not pay the £95/hr (private) but it might be OK for beginners in groups. Another big factor is the terrain, do you want your lesson spent on a 160m 10 degree slope with a slow drag lift that stops on average once every 2 uses or miles and miles of piste, high speed lifts and trees/sidecountry?
I think lessons really are often a waste if you are in a group or less than top notch instructor. With the amount of info and video of WC racers etc. available on the net, just about every digicam having video as well as critique you can get on forums like epicski there is a lot you can do yourself.
/going off the point
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| narc wrote: |
| The standard of teaching I have observed at snowdomes looks patchy at best but I'll leave it up to people who have actually had instruction to comment on the quality |
Yes it is. Isn't that the same with ski schools in the Alps? Plenty of comments on this forum about worse than useless lessons in resorts, including my experience of large ski schools in France. As ever with ski lessons, the best way to get a good instructor is to ask for a personal recommendation from someone you trust will give you good advice.
| narc wrote: |
| Another big factor is the terrain, do you want your lesson spent on a 160m 10 degree slope with a slow drag lift that stops on average once every 2 uses or miles and miles of piste, high speed lifts and trees/sidecountry? |
Another way of looking at it is to consider whether developing your skills at an indoor slope will help you to get more value from your one or two precious weeks in the mountain? Time spent indoors acquiring skills and confidence will help you to access more of the miles and miles of piste available in the resort you visit during the winter.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Dry slope UK - £50 for 5 X 2 hour race training group sessions = £5 an hour. Great fun and fantastic value, I think. But, of course, it's not the same as being on snow in the mountains.
Private for 4 adults (6 hours) - bump training - Chamonix. Total cost = £340. That makes about £14 an hour. Even better fun and also fantastic value, I think.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Sorry, should have said all costs 2009.
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These do it for me! I've learned more and improved more doing the clinics at Hemel Snow Centre than any lessons I've had to date out on the mountains. And very good value for money, if you're looking at it cost-wise, at £69/£79 for about 5 hours instruction and then detailed individual video feedback as well.
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You know it makes sense.
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I have been on a few snoworks courses and they work out at £11.50 per hour with Phill or Lee or Emma as your trainer.
V good value IMO.
It's actually less than that if you also count the after ski (in hotel) technical sessions.
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Fri 11-09-09 8:29; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Wayne, is that including the cost of the liftpass as well for the period of the instruction or just purely the cost of the instruction?
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Poster: A snowHead
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cathy,
Just the lesson - think thats the nature of the question from Megamum
Link to their site "here" not on commission but would recommend them to anyone
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Kids did a Xmas holiday 4-afternoon course on a dry slope for £55 - that was for 12 hours of group lessons.
In Grand Bornand last year we paid 30E for a 1 hour private lesson for them to share.
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FAQ
50 CHF (not £50 GBP in CHF!!)
