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Hi,
Just to say our TV programme is on tomorrow it was filmed last October here in Austria and the UK. We were filmed skiing on the Kaprun glacier and skiing in the snow dome at Castleford - I don't know what they will show because we don't get to see it before it is broadcast.
It is on ITV1 tomorrow Tuesday 25th at 10.30 am the programme is called ' No place like Home'- we will probably look silly -I can't remembered what I said at all!!
Hope you enjoy it.
Nigel
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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djfletcher, will definitely have a look at that. I think you're brave, going on the telly. I was on a religious programme once - I was about 13 and my school put me forward because the producers had asked for some gobby schoolchildren who were willing to challenge and debate the speakers representing the church. I remember nothing.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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djfletcher, sounds interesting, will try to watch it.
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I'll be in work then, but if it is on their catch up service, I'll watch it online later.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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djfletcher, what's it about?
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Hope it's on catch up matey. I ll be out at glentress then.
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djfletcher, Can you stick it on youtube as I have to work! Sounds like I need a life in Austria 
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Can ITV catch up be watched overseas? I'm guessing not 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Have set my sky plus!! 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Just off out for a bike ride. I have set my phone alarm to get me back home in time to watch 
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You know it makes sense.
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beanie1,
you need a UK VPN or Proxy, (VPN usually faster and more reliable but a tiny bit more expensive) . . . Though if you have a friend in the UK with a permanently on 'puter (server) and a fast bb connection you can go in via them for free.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Will have to wait until I'm back on my own PC, my boyfriend's Mac has Safari.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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half way through and no mention of  s as yet!
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Ahhh... NIGEL!!!
Why didn't you let us know sooner...?? Only just checked SH's - stumbled on the thread and now have missed you in glorious 46" Bravia!! We get ITV as well!...
Anyhoo.. have to catch up later!
See ya!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Huh,so you now live in the U.K?
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I switched it on and was like, hmmmm i wonder if they're snowheads, only to come on here and see yes you are!
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djfletcher, Interesting programme, thanks for the heads up.
Are you still intending to come back to the UK?
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Only watched the first 30 seconds on the ITV player. Nigel looks a bit dim but Deborah's hot stuff! Overdoes the make-up a bit though 
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Just watched it online. Seems like it's all been a tough decision to make, I don't envy you that one mate.
I'm looking at going the other way, UK to elsewhere - preferably the Mountains somewhere. NA or Canada could be an option I suppose.
I don't know why you were so nervous, it was good to watch.
Cheers!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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djfletcher, I like the fact that Nigel was wearing a ski jacket for almost the whole film!
In all seriousness, I admire your bravery djfletcher - it must be extremely difficult to discuss and make decisions on your future with the cameras on you.
I'd be fascinated to know what happened next...
Last edited by And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. on Tue 25-08-09 15:13; edited 1 time in total
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dlawless, no where is better than North Yorkshire....and I actually mean that. Skiing is great, but none of my family would swap it for the friends and fun we have here.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Huh. We see more of our UK friends now we're here than we ever did in the UK because we all make the effort with the greater distance - it's too easy to take people for granted when they're on your doorstep. Must say I felt some of the friends came across as wanting you to return for their sakes, not yours - again maybe attributable to the editing. Can only echo the comments above about your courage about taking it onto telly, but it looked like a useful process to crystallise your thoughts. None of it would have been reason for us to return to the UK - but then wild horses wouldn't drag us back come what may. Which is a bit different from your situation. Good luck with it all!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Interesting programme. I have to admit that I felt Debs had the rough end - she has the bulk of the boring work in the guest house (DIY isn't so boring because it stays done, unlike cleaning toilets) and had presumably had 12-14 months of pregnancy/nursing when the programme was made (gorgeous baby, though!). Whereas Nigel likes to spend the mornings skiing and the afternoons composing music?
Or was that a misprepresentation.
Personally, I'd have told him that if we're to stay in Austria the guest house work and child care gets split right down the middle, and I would get out more and learn to speak fluent German.
Being cruel, I wondered whether Nigel had the drive to become a successful musician - living in the middle of the Yorkshire Dales (stunning as it is) is hardly Where It's At, is it?
Muehlbach looks beautiful and you all came over as a lovely family, I thought.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Damn! Just spotted this thread - missed it. Sorry. 
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I'm interested to know whether you felt the programme gave a fair picture of how things are and how you felt at the time? I know of a couple who went on location, location, location and they very much felt as if the editing was done to over dramatise matters.
Seemed your poor wife had the rough end of the deal and you very much had a nice life of composing and skiing??!!!
Why are you still out in Austria in the end? Did you change your mind or have you had problems relocating?
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It certainly made good tele!
And don't worry Nigel.... you looked beautiful (I would have lent you one of my branded ski jackets though if I knew it would be in shot as much!)
I can't say I agree with 100% of the points put accross but I gues it is up to the editor!
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Hi,
Thanks for all your kind comments. I think the programme was done well it was not as bad as we feared. Just remember they did not use a lot that they filmed. Don't believe everything on TV especially after been involved with a programme. They have a story to tell and so obviously just use the clips to tell 'that' story!!
Here are a few answers to the questions
quote="Flow"]Huh,so you now live in the U.K?[/quote]
No not yet our house is up for sale but property can take a long time to sell in Austria so I think we will be here this winter and we are still taking bookings!!
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We were definitely sure but now we are not!!! - like everything there are advantages and disadvantages!!
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don't know your full story but from what i saw you just need to get out more and then things will fall into place and new friends will be made. It's like anything the more you put into it the more you get back.
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That is not always the case the culture here is very different to the UK people tend to do things with families so it is very hard to break into this . Our friends here are all 'outsiders' - one is German,another is Greek, another is from Vienna, another is an American married to an Austrian- all speak fluently German but have found it hard to make friends. But it is a village so it is probably similar to the UK in that respect. Speaking the language does help and I admit my German is not that great although Debs is better then mine, it is still hard.
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| djfletcher, Editing? made it appear that the missus has the bristle end of the loo-brush and has more of the family workload. It's down to you guys to balance that. Could it be that you love the freedom Austria has given you and she's just tired of the workload? Other than the proximity of old friends and family I couldn't see any reason to return to the UK. |
Yes that was the editing - we would not be able to do the change over on a Saturday if we did not work together as it is we only just get both apartments ready on time. During the week the child care is split and we both have our jobs to do. Unfortunately I don't just ski all morning and compose all afternoon although I would love to!! I ski about 2 to 3 times a week as does Debs but she does not like skiing by herself. On Sunday we take it in turns to take the boys skiing.
The problem for Debs is not have anything to tax her mind, as a teacher she did lots of creative things whereas I have my music here.
I hope that has answered your questions but overall I thought the programme showed us in a good light and represented our situation quite truthfully. They spent a lot of time on my music which was good- more than I thought they would but any publicity is good publicity as they say!!!
Nigel
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| That is not always the case the culture here is very different to the UK people tend to do things with families so it is very hard to break into this . Our friends here are all 'outsiders' - one is German,another is Greek, another is from Vienna, another is an American married to an Austrian- all speak fluently German but have found it hard to make friends. But it is a village so it is probably similar to the UK in that respect. |
Well that's the case for many expats everywhere. In London I started having closer British friends (ie beyond going to the pub) only based on specific interests (er...skiing, but also writing). Other than that, locals already have their friend circles, and it's hard to get close to them. Now in Brussels I've been almost back to square one.
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I don't think the expat thing is quite the same everywhere (having been an expat in quite a few places). Some cultures are far less likely to invite you into their homes than others. We know of friends of friends who have been renovating a house in France - they invited all their neighbours to the housewarming. They all came and everyone had a spiffing time, and is friendly enough in everyday encounters, but they've never been invited back. The husband is English (though he speaks very good French) and the wife is French. But she comes from a different region of France and she might as well be Chinese.
When we were expats in Barbados we had close friends who swore when we left they were never going to bother with expats again as they kept leaving. You can see their point. But after leaving we did go on two boating holidays with them in Europe, so we kept up.
Mountain communities are particular insular I suspect - a French friend in Les Saisies, who has lived there for years, told me he still feels an outsider because he is not from that region and - worse - has an Indonesian wife. He feels he has little in common with many of his local neighbours, most of whom (he suspects) vote far right. He comes from the very north of France but he did say the locals were equally as suspicious of folk who come from the neighbouring valley. He is very active locally, was a local councillor, organised things for the kids (he's a teacher and I met him when I did a French course with him) so he was hardly failing to join in.
In the Solomon Islands or PNG in the old days anyone from a different valley could legitimately be eaten. Maybe things are still a bit like that!
If I was moving permanently to the Alps I'd go somewhere like Chamonix which is full of expats. In our place we have some very close Belgian/French friends (they have been to visit us in the UK, and we've visited them in Belgium) and there are several French families we will invite for an apero, and be invited back. Limited more than anything by my inadequate (and the OH's almost non-existent) French. But the secret there is that EVERYONE in the apartments is away from home so we're not trying to break in to an established community. That makes life a lot easier.
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Not going to make any comment on you or your desicions, but recorded the program and have just watched it. Quite enjoyed it, thanks for the heads up!
The best of luck in all you do!
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