 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think they ought to be allowed to compete
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Megamum, go on then, sign up 
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I don't see the problem. Men get to do it so should the ladies, sure they won't be any good at it but hey, they're women what you expect.
**duck**
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Problem is not discrimination or something similar. Real problem is, there's less then 50 women ski jumpers on world. And that's a bit little to have this discipline at Olympics. 
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You'll need to Register first of course.
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primoz, How many female skeleton riders are there worldwide ?
The ski jumpers were told what they had to do to get into the Olympics in terms of number of World Championships they needed to have held, they have not done this AFAIK.
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I just don't understand why they can't all wear cardigan's or even fleecies like sensible ladies do all over the world?
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| primoz, How many female skeleton riders are there worldwide ? |
I have no idea about women skeleton. I don't have any interest in skeleton, therefore I have no idea how many riders there is or anything similar to this. I do know ski jumping on the other side.
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Rather than direct discrimination it's probably more an issue of fitting in another event. Chances are they will likely argue that to include women's ski jump will lead to another event having to go...at least that's what tends to be their argument with the summer games.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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The 2012 Olympics? That's a bit drastic isn't it? If Seb Coe thought he had trouble reigning in expenses before ...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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No...apparently it's true. They'll use the outside of the Dome and land in the Thames... 
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You know it makes sense.
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The 2012 Youth Olympics are not in London, they will be in Innsbruck.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Why can't the women compete with the men? Apart from stupidity what is the skill in ski jumping? Is it timing and technique or is there a strength element in it?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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As far as I'm aware, the problem is that
a) The IOC have had a policy in recent years to try and appeal to a younger and wider audience. This has seen the likes of BMX and snowboard halfpipe make their debuts to appeal to under 25s, whilst it is hoped that golf in 2016 will bring a lot of extra revenue.
b) Whilst the IOC are also keen to move against lingering cultural perceptions that some sports are only for men (women's boxing has recently been voted in for 2012), they will not put in a sport that is not highly-competitive and established. The women's boxing World Champs last year hosted more than 250 boxers from more than 50 countries, and these were only the ones that qualified. The sport is also popular and current. Skiing halfpipe didn't make the grade for 2010 because despite being popular and current, the standard drops away too quickly after messrs Hall and Dumont.
In comparison, ski jumping is neither popular or current and will not help the IOC to attract a wider audience, and on that basis alone the IOC would be skeptical about adding it. Add to this that women's ski jumping is hardly very established competitively (WSJ2010 themselves admit there are only 130 athletes from 16 nations. And there's no World Cup tour!) and you've got a pretty solid case for not including it. It has nothing to do with discrimination - only the integrity of Olympic competition.
Regarding women's skeleton, there are 219 FIBT-registered female skeleton athletes, plus (a big plus) given the nature of the sport - which is very team-orientated despite being an individual discipline - only the top 8 national teams are actually invited to compete at the Games. Which pushes the standard of the fight for gold even higher.
I reckon it's fairly clear that if they did let women jump in 2010, it would be because of positive discrimination, and not because they've earned it. Thank god the IOC committee haven't gone PC mad like the rest of the world.
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