 Poster: A snowHead
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Well the snows finally melted, and everyones gone home. Now we have all summer to decide plans for ski season 2010.
If you like the idea of living in a chalet and skiing all season, but dont like the idea of working a six days a week, you might find this offer interesting.
We are a british family of 4 living in switzerland, we have a private chalet that we use on the weekends and swiss school holidays.
We would like to find a chalet helper/ chalet couple to look after it (and us) for the winter season, not just as house keepers but people who love to ski as well.
What that means is you work on weekends then get to ski or do your own thing for the other 5 days of the week of the week.
Typically we would arrive most weekends on a friday night, and leave Sunday evening. We would expect you to do regular household chores, cooking, cleaning, occasional child minding (ages 5 and 8 ) , ski teaching, and other helpful activities ensuring a stress free weekend. In return you get a whole week to do what you like. (Ski).
Occasionally we may have house guests, and school holidays mean we would stay for longer periods which is an extra work load, but not a disaster.
The chalet is in a well known resort in central Switzerland. Local Skiing (70 km sq) is literaly 50 yards from your door. Other famous ski areas such as Engleberg, Wengen, Grindlewald, Murren , Gstaad, Andermatt,Adelboden are within easy reach.
Accomodation is inside the chalet in a fully segregated 2.5 room appartment.
and at your disposal. During the week of course you can use the full facilities of the chalet when it is empty.
We would like to hear from genuine applicants, preferably a couple, naturally you should be capable of doing all tasks above without difficulty, or attitude.
What you do in your own time is up to you of course,
Last year I got a lot of stick in this forum for the 2009 season post(
http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=43976
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Well this time, its probably too early. but here goes. I hope this time you play nice..
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 3-06-09 14:33; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So how much time DID last year's people spend (1) waiting on you hand and foot (2) babysitting rather than skiing?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Welcome back - I 'm sure all of those that gave you stick would be interested in knowing how last year's arrangements worked out - are you posting it on TGR for the international pimps and coke barons to reply again? 
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Perhaps you could get last year's people to post here and give you a reference.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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nixmap, I was only thinking/asking about you and your proposition, a couple of weeks ago. As you are back on here, perhaps it went well? 
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nixmap, If you throw in two season passes me and my good lady would be very happy to do it  .
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I'd love to hear from last year's incumbent, I found the whole thing fascinating last year.
As Anniepen says, presumably it worked out pretty well if you're after the same arrangement again, nixmap?
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Hmmmmm..... I wonder how much it would cost to subcontract a couple of cute Polish housemaids to share the apartment with? . . . I sense a cunning plan 
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| James the Last wrote: |
| So how much time DID last year's people spend (1) waiting on you hand and foot (2) babysitting rather than skiing? |
1) Basically as described, February sportsferien was a bit frantic, the chalet was full for 2 weeks solid.
and there was so much snow (2 falls of over a meter), that the kids couldnt really ski every day.
I guess that was pretty frustrating to what that amont of snow come down only to watch others take advantage.
But like it or not that was always part of the deal.
Christmas, was equally frantic but it always is, wherever you are.
I think the only real annoyance was having to clear the path to the chalet, when there was so much snow.
Chopping kindling was not a favourite task either.
Of course it was much better after being given private lessons on how to handle my chopper.
I kind of got the feeling that by the end of the season, cabin fever began to set in, which wasnt entirely unexpected, and exactly why we would really recommend a couple.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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nixmap, welcome back. I liked last years thread, hope you get sorted.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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by the end of the season, cabin fever began to set in
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Cabin fever? I thought this was a SKIING post!? 
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nixmap, It is cool you worked it all out last year. Was it someone that saw it on snowHeads? If so I would like some commission
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You know it makes sense.
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Followed last year's thread and looking forward to seeing the same comments all over again! 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Sounds like a very good deal - after all, you'd expect to pay in some way.
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Poster: A snowHead
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nixmap, Good luck.
I am surprised by all the negative comments.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Oh... if only 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Latchigo, to understand the reason behind the negative comments I think you'd need to have followed last year's thread, and in particular the difficulty in persuading nixmap that the deal he was offering was definitely NOT "ski all week" (a proposition proven by his report above, and the fact that it appears that for around 4 weeks of the season, at least, it was a pretty full time job).
A positive reference from the previous employee(s) would be the best way of getting hold of the right kind of person for next season.
A lot of chalets were pretty empty last season - because of the recession. My son had a (very well) paid position and a free 3V lift pass and had oodles of time to ski; in fact he looked forward to the times when the owners were in residence, first because he liked them, but second because cooking great food for them gave him a challenge.
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..and so it begins again. Well, it's a long time until November, and we've got to talk about something
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Entertaining thread, that last one! I think it could be a good deal for the right person, e.g. child-friendly remote worker. Nixmap, I can think of some people who might be interested if the chalet has wifi. Shall I point them here to contact you?
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Sure be my guest, thats what the thread is for , other than primarily so pam can bait me.
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But does it have le weefee? or is it das wifi for you? They would need it for work.
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nixmap,
I think the use of the phrases "chalet witch" and "pam can bait me" are a tad inflammatory. The points made by her are factual and realistic. You have given no references for next season's aspiring chalet hosts to check and it is very clear that your Friday to Sunday advertisement involved substantially greater commitments than those on which you based your offer. A pretty photo of a standard alpine chalet doesn't absolve you of patronising comments. You owe pam w, an apology and prospective employees a little more small print.
Aneira
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Aneira, in fairness both first time round and this time nix stated that school holidays and having house guests may involve more than just the weekends.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Oh sorry I didnt see that,
I use a mobile USB stick, costs me about 50 chf a month, for about 1500kbps?
I think its limited for 2.5gb a month. certainly fast enough for me.
I dont use a fixed line phone there, doesnt seem much point at the moment. Its wired obviously, but i think ASDL is out of reach or some such techno babble so all in all USB mobile works out better all round.
Not fussed making this available on a casual basis within reason, when im not around,
Not sure this is enough for remote working and its kinda not casual, but there are lots of differnt packages which i guess somone with a remote work deal can choose from.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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it was much better after being given private lessons on how to handle my chopper
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| pam w wrote: |
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it was much better after being given private lessons on how to handle my chopper
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It's all in the wrist action. Chopping wood that is.
John.
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You know it makes sense.
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BCjohnny, who said anything about anyone having wood?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| arv wrote: |
| BCjohnny, who said anything about anyone having wood? |
Having wood, in one form or another, is definitely a pre-requisite for chopping to take place................
John.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| arv wrote: |
| BCjohnny, who said anything about anyone having wood? |
Kindling is small pieces of wood. The main chalet heating is wood fired kacheloffen.
Unfortunatly my chopper was to large for the task in hand. 
Nix.
So I had to get a new one from the store.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Aneira wrote: |
nixmap,
are a tad inflammatory.
Aneira |
I think you best have a look at the thread history, before you leap to anyones defences.
Genuine applicants, can get as specific as they like when the make a serious application,
This is after just a post after all, not an job advert.
Lively debate, or I quote "sarky comments" from "REWs" seem to be par for the course and part of the design.
Thats ok, as its wholly more entertaining than a 2 x 4 cm advert in the times.
Further to that, its considerably more informative.
You should have seen the sister thread on TGR last year. !!!
Nix.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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This sounds very good..and the chalet looks a picture. I also don't get the negativity here...
Obviously there are always downsides to these types of things as nobody ideally wants to work in a ski resort...but we met a guy who did this sort of thing for a client in Verbier and it sounded as good a way to make your way in a ski resort for a season as it gets...
Assuming that you need to do some sort of work ...that is..
Sounds great, IMV..
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Yeah I didn't get the negative posts last year, and probably the ones that will come this year.
So nixmap tried to present a positive outlook on the deal offered....Doesn't anyone do that?
Anyone with half a brain will work out the possible downsides when they speak to the OP... His initial post isn't a contract, it's an advert to catch someone's attention.
Some people do get on their high horses easily... 
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Kruisler, here here (or is that hear hear? - any way you get the message).
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You are working for your accommodation. Whether that equates to around £10-12 an hour (as someone worked out last year, I think) , or £5-6 an hour, depends on how many hours you actually end up working. Seems a reasonable question to ask, and to answer. The job seems to have required, last season, several weeks of fairly non-stop work (probably a good bit more than an 8 hour day). To continue to suggest that the incumbent would be able to ski 5 days a week is disingenous, to put it no more strongly. That would be the absolute maximum and during a good few weeks you might not be able to ski much, at all. And you would need significant private means - to pay for your ski pass, gear, drinks, food, etc. for the whole season. So you couldn't be a hard up student, that's for sure.
I certainly don't require any apology, but neither do I accept that to try to tease out just exactly how much work is involved here is nit-picking or "getting at" anybody. Nor are the posts suggesting that last year's person might be able to provide a "reference" negative or unreasonable.
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pam w, So basically you don't want the gig, right? And you are going to do your very best to seed enough seeds of doubt that no-one else wants it either. I bet you're a riot at parties
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not seeds of doubt, , Guvnor, but perfectly reasonable questions. Just because I don't plan to go to La Rosiere next season won't stop me giving my views about it to anyone who is enquiring about it, either. Nobody's forcing you to read any of it. What on earth would be the point of this thread (or most others) if people weren't giving their views? The OP is not objecting - he says he's enjoying the discussion and it keeps the thread alive. Why so sensitive?
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pam w,
Are you some sort of inspector for a government department related to labour laws and practices...or some watchdog of some sort?
At worst the OP is guilty of embellishing the position a little bit.. so bl00dy what! His was an informal post about some deal he offers, not some professional advert for paid work. You seem to be assuming people are idiots and don't know what is what. People interested can call him and figure out by themselves what it's all about.
Why do other people, ones that are clearly not interested in the deal, have to denigrate what's on offer without being themselves fully aware of all that is entailled.
The whole "reference/last year's person" point that you and Aneira are making is a ridiculous one.... even in the professional world, I have yet to meet one single prospective employer providing applicants with list and contact information (or even just a statement) of the advertised position previous incumbent (if that person has left)..that is unless the applicant actually asked for it... So why on earth should nixmap do this here????
None of the negative comments have had any sort of usefulness..
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| pam w wrote: |
| Just because I don't plan to go to La Rosiere next season won't stop me giving my views about it to anyone who is enquiring about it, either. Nobody's forcing you to read any of it. What on earth would be the point of this thread (or most others) if people weren't giving their views? |
The good age old argument:it's on an internet forum so it requires an opinion to be expressed...
No it doesn't..
The OP never asked for comments on the deal offered, or his lifestyle...He asked people interested by said deal to make contact...
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