 Poster: A snowHead
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Anyone know when the requirement for doing a refresher course at ISIA level changed from being once every three years to every year?
Also being as I work at a slope where a refresher will be done and the basi refresher is listed as "including slope fees" has anyone been in this situation and managed to get the "slope fees" element of the cost waived?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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skir67, i could be wrong but i heard for ISIA it is 2 days every two years, so if you do a multi day course every other year that counts.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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i understand it the same way as skimottaret.
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Once you get to Level 3 are there any courses other than the standard 1-day refresher course available? If you're not going to go forward to Level 4 it would be nice if you had a wider choice of stuff that you could select from.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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rob@rar, i was thinking that the shorter coaching (course setting) or adaptive modules (visual Impairment) would be appropriate but now that Adaptive is only in the L1, L2 L3 format not sure that works.
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skir67, I have done 2 refreshers - both were not even a whole day, and neither was qualification specific, so in both cases I ended up with Grade 3's (Level 2 now).
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skimottaret, rob@rar, freestyle coach?!
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Although the one day refreshers might seem a bit of a hassle or not so useful, once you've been qualified a while they are. I did a refresher 3 years after first doing my BASI Instructor, and quite a lot had changed in that time - getting rid of the basic swing for a start! Since then I've been doing ISIA courses (but not the teach or tech), so no refresehers and hence have been unaware of any developments made to the central theme etc. So I've asked other instructors, borrowed a newer copy of the manual etc to keep up to date, but it's not as useful as a day with a trainer. Of course as your experience as an instructor deveops you may not want to follow the central theme, but I think it's good to at least have knowledge of the latest ideas.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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skimottaret, I am well aware, but the person concerned was a Grade 3 - not an L2! I would like to see proper refreshers as in a CPDs for docs etc. It's interesting and instructive, and we've all seen instructors on the mountain still teaching feet together, downsink, pole plant, up-pop, rotate etc... It's just a shame that in all these years they don't seem to have sorted it. The french one was more interesting in terms of discussion, but not much better in terms of actual help and info.  Better value I thought though, and at least they came up with a receipt for the professional expense - BASI didn't, even after 3 phone calls. 
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easiski, just busting your chops a bit 
i couldnt agree more that they should have refreshers per grade/level to keep it interesting.
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You know it makes sense.
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skir67, The requirement is to to with the minimum level of training required to maintain ISIA status (mandated by ISIA).. which is two days every two years - which is the same as 1 day every year.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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After reading this thread I emailed BASI asking them when I am due to do a refresher. I did the EMS training at the end of november 2008, and I have to do a refresher by the 27th November 2009. Hmmmm..... so it looks like my ONLY choices are a 1 day refresher, or L1 freestlye coach, and having to fly in from europe to do it. This could be expensive
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Poster: A snowHead
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skir67, The requirement is to to with the minimum level of training required to maintain ISIA status (mandated by ISIA).. which is two days every two years - which is the same as 1 day every year.
Fair enough then if ISIA are now asking for this. However I'm sure the last one I did was £25 now they seem to be £70 and up (ignoring the one which is £55 as you have to pay slope fees as well). I just feel a bit like BASI are cashing in. My qualifications much like all of yours cost me thousands to do, never mind lost income whilst on training courses. There are various other intangible costs that we bear too. Still I made my choices and I enjoyed the times when I was involved full-time.
I enjoy my teaching and I certainly don't do it solely for the money, but when you're getting paid £11 an hour all these extra training costs add up and make you feel as if someones taking the mickey.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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skir67, when I did a referesher it was £10!!! And that was only in 2006 I think so not so long ago. Didn't include slope fees though, which I think most now do.
freestyleandy, don't they run any refreshers in the Alps?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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beanie1, not many before the 27th November! Can't see any on the website! The other one I might get away with is the L4 teach starting on the 30th November, but having not been on snow since April, might not be the best to go for. Looks like I will be stuck with this early season problem from now on, must have a word with the BASI office 
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freestyleandy, you'll still get your licence in Oct though? Is there not some leeway?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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freestyleandy, if you are looking for some training or "refreshing" in the Alps from a BASI trainer, you might be interested in the tdc autumn courses - http://www.tdcski.com/about_tdc/other_stuff/basi_prep.shtml there are two weeks of training early in October. A BASI refresher doesn't have to be arranged by BASI it can happen with any trainer.
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Boyceman,
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A BASI refresher doesn't have to be arranged by BASI it can happen with any trainer.
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I know that used to be the case, but I thought they'd changed that rule?
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Boyceman,
P.S. Welcome to Snowheads!
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skimottaret, I wonder if the Eurotest training that BASI run would count as a refresher? Or does it have to be one of the standard modules?
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Thanks for the welcome, as far as I know a refresher can happen with any trainer. I don't think the Eurotest training counts as it is not specific to the BASI product.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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beanie1, that thought did cynically cross my mind too 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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beanie1, at a wild guess I'd say Boycey has joined the forum 
Boyceman, welcome.
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