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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Mosha Marc, having taken the velcro off the zipfit i would think the booster is a good idea....i would use it even with the velcro on the liner as both straps perform different functions to an extent
the inner one (liner power strap) wraps the liner close to the leg, the main power strap holds the liner and your leg to the back of the shell, it is this combination which prevents the "seat belt" effect when flexing the boot and gives a much smoother rebound
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Mosha Marc, Shove them on...Zipfits + Booster = much happiness 
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Mosha Marc,
YES.
If there is any fresh snow at all your first trip, you're going to want them.
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I actually put Boosters on my new boots, found them annoying and took them off again - this could be because Nordia licensed the Booster technology and run their own version. I don't like putting the strap under shell (it's an back bottom, the 3 strap under feels unnatural), and the wider thickness of the stock strap felt like it was more effective with more surface area (again, also having rebound elasticitiy probably helped).
I'd probably attribute this to having really tight shellfit and foamed liners tho, on top of a stiff boot.
Sorry, to clarify, I had them on my old boots first and quite liked them - they were a shell size too big and only flex100 tho.
Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Thu 2-07-09 15:15; edited 1 time in total
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Mosha Marc, You may also find that the liner takes up less space in the shell if you put back the laces.
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DaveC, I found it also to be a back bottom under the shell, but with the top of the shell cut away it fits nicely round the liner. Does the nordica system go around the liner or the shell?
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| RPF wrote: |
| DaveC, I found it also to be a back bottom under the shell, but with the top of the shell cut away it fits nicely round the liner. Does the nordica system go around the liner or the shell? |
It routes like a regular power strap in front, so your choice really: the elastic bit is in the back in a sort of Y configuration.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Agree - I have leather wc zip fits. Ditched the laces and the velcro - there isn't room for them and added the booster. Just the job.
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| Mosha Marc wrote: |
| ....They're by Head and had some spanky extendable arms on the top two buckles to help the infirm shut the boot. ... |
they're for folk with fat calves who can't shut the boot - trust me 
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You know it makes sense.
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Sorry to ressurect a thread from a while back, but I wanted to aim a few questions at Mosha Marc, RPF, CEM, and others who know what's what regarding Booster Straps
Before last season I had a pair of HEAD Raptors fitted by our resident boot fitting wizard in Bicester. I skied them for almost 50 days and are very happy with them, although they are still snug......black big toe nails => check, shells ground out in certain places to allow for even minor imperfections in feet => check, boots are a pain in the butt to get on unless thoroughly warmed before hand => check.....you guys know the score 
I'm toying with the thought of putting some Booster Straps on them and just wanted to get peoples' thoughts about the difference they make
I'm a reasonably agressive skier, but only a little guy (72kg). I've taken out one of the screws in the back of my Raptors to reduce the flex from 110 to 105 and this has made a difference. I'm a bit of a fussy git and really like a nice firm connection between my footwear, be it a ski boot, trainer, etc and my foot/lower leg. The standard liners in my Raptors have not compressed so much so I can get the clips done up nice and snug, but there is naturally a small gap at the back of my leg when the boots are flexed.
I'm thinking that Booster Straps will help me in terms of getting a really firm connection between my leg and boots and that my skiing will also benefit from the flex and return that the straps offer, by really using this force to the maximum.
What are people's thoughts? Is it worthwhile throwing £30 CEM's way for the intermediate straps (don't answer that Colin!). How much faffing around is there to fit them? - have heard that there's a bit of cutting of the shell needs to get everything to sit well.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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no need to cut the shell, some just like to understrap the booster rather than have it on the shell as well, fitting them is a doddle burn two holes throught eh booster to match the screwed on plate which currently holds the powerstrap on and swap
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Poster: A snowHead
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Sleipnir, The straps are well worth it. I have them on my Alpine and Tele boots - and would not want to go back.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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CEM, on Andi's advice and with your permission, I took the laces out of my ZipFits, which certainly makes my boots easier to put on. However, the ZipFit velcro is very difficult to tighten, because it gets into an irrevocable muddle with the shell halves and it is also difficult to unravel the boot's own velcro strap from that muddle and tighten it properly. Obviously I don't need performance perfection or anything, but would you recommend either or both of removing the ZipFit velcro and installing a booster? If so, I'll try and make an appointment with you, if that's OK. Or maybe I should do that anyway, so that you can see the current strap muddle for yourself?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sleipnir, I did put the booster straps on in the end, and have had over twenty days on the snow with them. They do make the fitting more snug, and also firm the boot up a little. I'm pretty sure I'd put them on any future boots too; so it's a Yes from me.
Fitting is really easy - in fact I posted a "How tis done" guide on here a while ago. I'll go see if I can find it.
Edit; here it is, in relation to old style Salomon boots;
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abj, ........and you win a prize!!
Salomon very kindly have placed a rear spoiler adjuster bolt at just the right height on your boots to double up as a booster strap retainer.
1. Drill out the rivets holding in you're old strap. In fact you don't have to drill em out properly. As you drill them they get hot, weaken the plastic around them and pop out.
2. Line up the booster strap where you want it to go. Easiest way; put on boots and put on the strap. Mark the strap where it lines up with the spoiler bolt.
3. Impress Mrs and entertain family by heating a girt big nail on the hob. 6" are good - as are pliers or grippers unless you don't believe in heat conduction in metals.
4. Push the nail through the strap in spot marked earlier.
The real issue now is; do you have the strap under or over the shell.............. |
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Cheers for the responses to my questions chaps - much appreciated
So, the general feeling is that Booster Straps are a good investment, they do seem to make a difference and they are pretty simple to fit........making holes with a red hot 6" nail sounds like fun in anyone's book, but I'll probably wimp out and use a soldering iron 
Sorry, but I have another question - but which one to buy?
I have read on the official Booster Strap site that it is better to start off with a softer strap rather than leap in with the Bode version. They said that you are more likely to feel the difference and the effect the strap is having. Also I'm not going to be racing or anything that extreme. As I think I menioned, I'm about 72kg and about 1.70m (5ft 7") tall so I'm thinking that this puts me in the realm Booster Soft strap.....anyone suggest otherwise, or is this the one I need to get from CEM?
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Mosha Marc, and excellent instructions they were too!
Can't remember whether I said thanks at the time ... so, thanks! The Booster straps are still attached and doing the well!
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PS: I went for strap over the shell
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abj, 
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Hi, I noticed no-one replied to Sleipnir. I'm also interested in getting some Booster Straps but unsure of whether I should get the Intermmediate/Advanced (soft?) or the Expert (Medium?). The wording on http://wwwboosterstrap.eu/english/booster.asp# does not seem to match the wording on CEM's website: http://www.solutions4feet.co.uk/catalogue_main.php?catID=1065 but I guess the mapping I have eluded to is correct. CEM, could you confirm this ?
Anyway I'm 79Kg, good intermmediate skier and fairly aggressive. Do I get the Intermmediate/Advanced or the Expert ones ?
I'm assuming I get Expert, considering the real "expert" version seems to be the World Cup Booster Straps.
Thanks
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You can always cut a layer of webbing out of the stiffest one and end up with the advanced etc, so there's no real reason to get anything but the stiffest unless you're certain you don't want it.
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