 Poster: A snowHead
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http://www.skitransalp.com/
I came across this link to reports on a trans alpine ski tour, from Lake Garda in Italy to the Kochelsee in Germany, and thought it might be of interest to others. The text is in German but there are some fine photos.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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good stuff - i've always liked the idea of a traverse from (say) Salzburg to Nice, but it's one of those things you would need a lot of time for!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Friends of ours did a trans-alp tour roughly along the spine of the alps from Oberreid in Austria, through Switzerland/Italy/France all the way to Merton on the Meditteranean coast. Took them about 8 weeks, spread over 2 weeks per year.
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Oooooh that looks very interesting. I'm warming to the idea of soing something rather epic for charity and that looks like it might be epic enough!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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What has going on holiday got to do with "doing something for charity"?
Try going to help these people http://www.crisis.org.uk/ for 8 weeks instead.
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What has going on holiday got to do with "doing something for charity"?
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I agree. These holiday jaunts dressed up as "charity work" are a bit of a con. Overall, the charity would get far more benefit if the people "sponsoring" just gave the money direct - the resource costs of these trips are high. It makes a lot more sense if people are "sponsored" to do something they really don't want to do and which doesn't cost much; like blokes having their backs waxed. 
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It never even crossed my mind that CSki would be claiming costs back; surely not???
Even if he doesn't, it still doesn't seem worth sponsoring him to go on holiday. Might just as well sponsor him to see how many pints he can drink in one night...
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the charity would get far more benefit if the people "sponsoring" just gave the money direct - the resource costs of these trips are high.
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While that may seem logical. In reality, a lot of people will NOT put the same amount of effort into raising money for whatever charity. But they would spend the energy to raise MORE than what it cost them to do such a trip. Similarly, many potential doners also don´t always give quite as much when simply being asked. But they´re sometimes more willing to donate MORE when the fund raiser put so much effort into the activity.
Of course, one should never under-estimate the power of having a more interesting "conversation opener" before asking for money. A lot of these "fund raisers" would never have the nerve to ask for money from semi-strangers without such an agreeable "excuse".
Simply put, the punter would have paid to do the activity anyway. And they are probably NOT going to donate more or less to the charity of their choice. With the excuse of "doing something epic", they could motivate themselves, and their doners, to give more to charity than they otherwise would.
I know it´s all a bit backward. But I´ve seen it worked well enough I stop questioning it. I personally does an annual cycling "charity" ride myself. Not because I feel strongly about the charity but only because I want to ride a route that´s not normally allow bikes. I don´t ask others to help me pay for my fun though. I simply pay the "suggested" minimum donation out of my own pocket. Still, after so many years of doing it, I´ve finally learn a bit about the charity, which I otherwise wouldn´t have bothered. So that´s how it´s supposed to work, I guess?
In the end, the charity got more money out of these activities. It´s gotten the result after all.
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I'd argue that people don't just give money to charity and are more likely to if their mates are doing something painful/challenging to 'earn' it, as abc pointed out. Whilst I might enjoy something like that, I do foresee a considerable amount of hardship and whilst I've never been one for a beach and booze up, I wouldn't quite call it a holiday!
James the Last, certainly not and I'm not a boy thanks!
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Cski, I quite agree. James the Last has posted a naive and very simplistic viewpoint. What you are proposing is very different to these charity 'holidays' one frequently sees advertised as you will be presumably paying for it yourself and your friends colleagues will be paying the charity for you to do it. You could just do it and not have a charity appeal, not quite as satisfactory for the charity I'm sure even James the Last would agree.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Sponsored swim; sponsored marathon, sponsored cycle ride - all fine. But sponsored skiing just isn't really the same is it...
dsoutar, you obviously haven't read a word I wrote. I'm not pam w...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Charity gets money that it wouldn't have got otherwise AND people do something enjoyable, terrible state of affairs...
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Sponsored swim; sponsored marathon, sponsored cycle ride - all fine. But sponsored skiing just isn't really the same is it...
dsoutar, you obviously haven't read a word I wrote. I'm not pam w... |
i'm assuming these guys aren't using lifts and are doing a continual traverse. if so, that is something which is quite a physical achievement, requires considerable mental and physical skill and probably doesn't get done very often. well worth sponsoring IMO
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You know it makes sense.
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Ah, the righteous thread..... 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Guvnor, I didn't mean to start all this!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Can't believe how miserable people are being with someone who wants to raise money - even if it is doing something they enjoy. I did the SCOPE ski challenge a couple of years ago. I would never have found out about SCOPE if it wasnt for the ski connection, and neither would many of my friends who sponsored me. The trip cost the charity about £600 per person if memory serves me right. The minimum sponsorship to take part was £1500 at the time. I made it my goal to raise at least as much more than the minimum to cover the cost - and in the end raised over £2500 including me giving more than the trip cost scope.
Yes - I had a great time. Would I (and many others who sponsored me) given my money to scope without that connection - NO. Stop moaning - this is exactly why charities organise things like this.
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FAQ
). All the photos are just walking on skis (or ski boots). Is that what the project is about, suffering in ski (boots)? 