 Poster: A snowHead
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I'm currently toying with buying my 1st set of skis ( stockli rotor 76 's ) which I have found on offer, however they come without bindings. As one who always hires skis, I only know that the binding is what I stick my boot in, so a number of questions : can anyone recommend suitable bindings for these skis? What can I expect to pay for them + fitting ? what should I look for when considering bindings ?
To give some more context, I'm a middle- aged, intermediate piste basher who likes to occasionally throw some carved turns & play in the soft stuff at the edges. The skis are on sale in switzerland, but I'm thinking of bringing them back & having bindings fitted here.
any help, suggestions & advice would be great
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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nickH, Kiwi1 has some VIST bindings . . very good kit and Spyderjon can fit them correctly for you. Not pimping but a good product and professional service from both.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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thanks Masque,will look into both. I'm interested to know how one tells a good binding from a bad one - are there particular things to look for & consider or is it down to reputation & experience?
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nickH, these days it's difficult to buy a bad ski binding (unless you hit fleabay), with litigation and regulation they all have to do 'what is says on the tin'. The difference in costs seems to come down to the quality of the materials and engineering. The Look and Rossi Axial turntable bindings mourned in their passing and are now (I think) only available as a race item.
I think you'll find that all brands have their advocates and detractors. I'm not the one to ask as I've gone telemark on board and skis 
PM Spyderjon to get an honest opinion.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Masque, beginning to think I should just take the skis into the nearest S&R & get them to fit whatever they suggest - I fear I could otherwise get caught up in the engineering minutae of a glorified clamp !!
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nickH, ummmm . . . to paraphrase, you will find that many sHs have a 'limited' opinion of S+R and personally knowing one of their managers it could be said that their prices are a little advantageous to their favour . . .
I'm sure there'll be more opinions along soon so chill a little longer as you've the end of season sales and all Summer to sort yourself out . . unless you've another trip planned.
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Nothing wrong with S and R really, but buy some railflex bindings, or some second hand skis you can take them off.
VIST bindings are fine, but pricey. Other railed bindings are more difficult to find 'off the skis' unless imported from the US.
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nickH,
metal housings, particularly at the heelpiece. This makes pricey.
direct pressure transfer, no 'rail' or 'floating' or, gasp, 'demo' goobiness.
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Masque, the question's prompted by finding some skis currently available at a reduced rate, but without bindings, so am trying to get a sense of what the entire package might cost should I buy them. Downside is they're stocklis which don't seem to come cheap anywhere anytime !
As for another trip, yes, am thinking of it, though it might be in part to collect the skis ( seems a good excuse to me !)
beequin, comprex, thanks both, I'm slowly beginning to get a sense of things
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Wasn't VIST the binding used by Stockli themselves at one stage? Hope Spyderjon will be on soon to advise.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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He's on holiday this week.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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He's on holiday this week.
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No surprise there then 
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What? Again?
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You know it makes sense.
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nickH, I was in the same position as you recently.
I bought a pair of Vist from Spyderjon recently for my Scott Neos. All of the important components of these bindings are made from metal as opposed to plastic found in some cheap bindings. They performed excelently on and off piste. I had no prereleases skiing agresively at my reccomendeid DIN setting and they released when I took the ocasional awkward tumble in powder. What more could I ask for........ Jon had a range of colours I got them in Green and White to match the Neos!
www.jonsskituning.co.uk
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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RPF, thanks for the recommendation, they seem pretty popular & more importantly, substantial. I suppose the advantage of getting the skis ( in switzerland)and the bindings here (& later ) is that I can spread the overall purchase cost over time therefore deluding myself into thinking its not an issue !!
As for the colour, the skis are a brushed silver, which might match my hair, but .....
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Poster: A snowHead
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nickH, it also allows you to do the balancing here if you believe in such things.
Me, I'm a big believer in balancing but I'm a bigger believer in skiing the ski to get a feel for what changes I want to make.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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comprex, I doubt that at my modest level of ability things like balancing would make much noticeable difference to the end result ( me upright & in control ! ). More to the point, I'm not sure I know what changes it is possible to make & therefore which ones would be worth trying.
The 'feel' factor is what's made me interested in these particular skis as I had a day on some 6 weeks ago & they felt superb in every way for the entire day, something I can't say of a number of other skis that I've hired over the last years.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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nickH,
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As for the colour, the skis are a brushed silver, which might match my hair, but .....
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He can probably find a VIST binding to match your locks and planks, and if you dye your hair at a later date you can change the covers of your bindings to match.
He also can do the balancing analysis comprex mentioned to find an optimum binding position if your into that sort of thing.
I got him to do the full new ski base prep with hot box wax (thats not the same as a brazilian wax) before I used the skis. They ran really really well.
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RPF, I'd certainly consider having the waxing done ( hot box eh?), but suspect that my level of skiing would not justify the difference ( or cost) that the balancing would make. I shall however look into it more if I buy these planks.
As for the bindings matching the skis matching the hair , I think that rather than dying the hair, the next stage is the hair falling out & I don't want bindings to match that !!!
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Masque, you did finally get them? Which boot, the Scarpa?
Your previous post implies that you may have them set on a teleboard as well? Howzat working out?
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nickH, This year Lange boots are 'Powder Poof Blue' or for the more macho "Forget-me-not" blue . . . next year they may very well be 'scalded scalp pink' so while you may not be able to match bindings, boots will not be a prob. Spyderman in pink is going to be a photo album to treasure
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comprex, Scarpa never delivered so I've the Crispis. I'm putting Bishop Bombers on the Teleboard, second user for the Bishop's with their troubles  , hope it gets sorted as I wante the Ti version and NO ONE is selling those new or second hand. I've ridden a Teleboard in duckbill boots and was stunned by the control and comfort once I'd stopped being aggressive with it and it'll be even better with a little active resistance from the Bombers. Where are you in CONUS?
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comprex, borrowed duckbills. I'm based in Tennessee but out Mid-West for the foreseeable. Probably won't be sliding again till next Winter but If I manage to live long enough by keeping my gob shut to crawl out of this redneck midden and head East, fancy a beer?
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