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Hiya Guys
Just wondering for 7 days in Niederau, how much cash will I need? I am staying Half Board and have pre paid for lift pass and ski hire.
I know its difficult cause its all down to the individual but looking for general rule of thumb!
Thanks again... 
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The way i always do it is write out a list of all the major expenses (food, drink, entertainment, equipment, lift pass) and then add 20% for safety. Thats the only rule of thumb i use and i always have the back up credit cards and the cash points.
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Depends whether you will be nicking breakfast to picnic on the slopes, or eating in the nicest mountain-top restaurants, or eating Spag Bog in a mountain-top cafe with 5 pints of beer.
Anything between virtually nothing and really rather a humungous amount.
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Ski and boot hire costs and lift pass prices can be found online. After that, it's beer, coffee and lunch money, and the cost of wine with your half board dinner. Your guess is as good as mine, depends if you are an enthusiastic luncher and/or swiller, but I'd say a rock bottom minimum of £25/day unless you're really, really trying to keep costs down, more like double that if you don't want to be counting the Groschen (as they still call them) all the time.
If you're in a chalet or chalet hotel, you'll have to factor in a dinner out one evening, and you may need sustenance en route from and to and/or at the airport.
You may find you need a few incidentals like sun stuff, lip stuff and the odd bit of kit, all of which will be hideously overpriced, at least 3 times as much as you think they could possibly be.
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Kookie30, when we stay half board, depending on the company and how much alcohol will be consumed  , I reckon about £150. You can always get more out from a cash point if you need it or if you don't use it all keep it to the next trip. It is only lunch and drinks you'll be paying for really.
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| richmond wrote: |
Ski and boot hire costs and lift pass prices can be found online. After that, it's beer, coffee and lunch money, and the cost of wine with your half board dinner. Your guess is as good as mine, depends if you are an enthusiastic luncher and/or swiller, but I'd say a rock bottom minimum of £25/day unless you're really, really trying to keep costs down, more like double that if you don't want to be counting the Groschen (as they still call them) all the time.
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Good grief!!!
I've hardly ever through that much (remembering she has already pre-paid for her lift pass & equipment hire) as a daily average over a week's holiday.
Although it will be more expensive due to exchange rate this year, it would always have been a fairly rare day that I spent much more than €20.
Excluding lift pass, I don't think I have ever taken more than €150 cash out during the week. Which last year would have been about £110, this year will be around £150.
But I don't drink heavily - 2-3 large beers is as much as I usually have in an evening (including what I have with dinner). And for lunch it is usually a bowl of gulasche soup (€3-5) or a fairly cheap main course plate (€8-12).
I'm not saying you can't reasonably spend more, but I don't think £25 per day is really a "rock bottom minimum". And I would have to be really trying hard to spend twice that.
But as you say, it is impossible to say for somebody else, because we just don't know what she will want to eat or drink, or where.
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Kookie30, As you say, it is very much down to the individual.
You will want lunch every day, which can be anything from about €3 for a bowl of soup (Gulasche soup is a very filling stew) up to €15-20 for a decent two course meal. Or you can make a packed lunch from the breakfast buffet if the hotel allow it.
You are also likely to want occasional coffee/hot chocolate stops during the day, and a hot drink will usually set you back roughly the same (sometimes a little less) as a large beer - which was usually around €3 last time I was there.
Other than that, there is nothing you need and TBH not much apart from ski gear in Neiderau that you can spend much on.
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Thanks guys - that has helped cause it now gives me an idea of what lunch will cost and I can add beer money on top of that lol.
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Kookie30,
I eat and drink well. Just spent £300.00 in Selva. Could probabloy do it for less than £250.00 in Austria.
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Perhaps I was being a bit pessimistic. I like to (and the OL insists that we) stop for a mid morning and quite possibly a mid afternoon drinkette, and if the weather is warm or I'm working hard, an extra rehydration stop or two may be in order (non alcoholic during the day, but that doesn't seem to make it cheaper). A large beer or two immediately after the last run, a little something (or two) for the tonsils before dinner, a decentish bottle over dinner and another drink afterwards, it all mounts up. Soup and a salad at lunch, perhaps a shared germknodel if I'm feeling particularly greedy, and we're probably over the £30 mark. Someone who took their sluicing more seriously than I do could rack up £50 with little effort, I reckon.
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Modest lunch in mountain restaurant €15
Drinks in the evening - if you are lucky €10
Coffee stops €7
So, about €22/day - less if you picnic. Less if you drink water. More if you have to buy something you have forgotten. More if you go out clubbing.
All that's theory. In practice, I would rejoice at spending but £25 a day.
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Modest lunch in mountain £15
quiet night in bar 2/3 beers £12
Spotting an ESF instructor fall over.. priceless!
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You know it makes sense.
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achilles, sounds a bare minimum to me.
Half board does not usually include booze with evening meal, I would reckon £30-40 a day - and more if I have to buy presents for kids and wife if I am going without them - and more still if their are snowHeads around. 
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if it is same price as alpe d'huez, this is what is realistic then
£6 - £7 beer
£4.50 coke
£8 - £12 whisky n coke
£20 per head for cheapo starter & pizza
£30 - £40 per head for decent 2 - 3 course dinner
£10 - £15 for lunch, not including drink
after buying 2 burgers and chips, a whisky and coke, coffee and two diet cokes for lunch, costing £45, put us off and we took packed lunch after that - and so was everyone else, it was like a big picnic ground on the mountain at lunchtime.
it is not cheap to eat or drink out, probably why during xmas week in alpe d'huez it was like a ghost-town in pubs and restaurants
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| innerspaceservices wrote: |
if it is same price as alpe d'huez, this is what is realistic then
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It isn't.
There have been many previous threads on this, and the general consensus is that the mega French resorts are well overpriced, and costs will usually be higher than even the mega resorts in places like Austria or Italy.
Once you are talking a small resort like Neiderau, prices are lower again than even the large Austrian resorts.
The prices you posted are way over the top for Neiderau.
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alex_heney, I agree. Lunch in Courchevel 2 weeks ago was easily £20 for a simple dish, a coke and a coffee. I'd expect it be about £10 in Austria for a Groestl or goulash soup and coke.
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alex_heney,
£20 a day ?? A small round can cost that in Europe !!
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Kookie30,
Hi,
In Niederau - 6 day lift pass is 150 euros.
Prices are pretty cheap compared with top resorts.
Lunch is about 5-6 euros. Beer very similar prices to over here.- abou 2.50 -3 euros ( spirits expensive in bars)
Wine and spirits in local supermarket - great value.
It makes a big difference when the shops are for the local Austrians, and not just there to rip off the visiting skiers.
Niederau is a great place to learn - you will love it.
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| dsoutar wrote: |
alex_heney,
£20 a day ?? A small round can cost that in Europe !! |
I don't think of about 7 large beers as being a "small round", and that is about what it would be in Neiderau.
As I said in another post in the thread, it would cost a lot more in one of the mega resorts in France, but it is Neiderau we are talking about here (and IME other Austrian resorts too).
As has also been said, it is very much going to depend on the individual/group concerned.
If you are in a group of half a dozen or more, and each buy a round every night, then yes you are talking €20 per night just on drinks, and your overall average over the week will be much more than €20 per day. But that would be a lot more than some people want to drink, particularly on a ski holiday. If you only have a couple of beers per night, then an overall average of €20 per day is definitely acheivable in the smaller Austrian resorts.
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I'm moving out there, I can barely buy a round of 7 drinks for that down my local !!
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