Poster: A snowHead
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I am going to be in Morzine for a week in early Jan, I am staying The Tremplin hotel - Anyone any experience of it ?
I have skied in the PdS a couple of times before but was with people who knew the area really well so pretty much just followed without taking too much notice of where I was.
This time I will be skiing alone and was wondering if anyone could recommend some good "tour" type routes around the area ?
I can cover a lot of ground in the day when skiing alone and would like some nice circular routes around the PdS that would keep me busy without doing the same runs over and over ?
Any Help would be appreciated, I have my piste map ready to mark the routes on
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 21-11-07 21:34; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The PDS has circular routes marked on the Piste map & signs, in the shape of Animals. So you can just follow the particular route that you want to take just by looking for the animal signs on the piste markers.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Spyderman, do the routes take in one area at a time ? what level are they aimed at ?
I was looking for routes that went around the whole area taking in Swiss side, when I skied in the PdS previously we did "the swiss tour" with a friend which took all day and covered a lot of distance but I cant remember at all where the route started/finished etc
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Nealglover, the routes are all of differing standards and go all over the PdS IIRC...the animal denotes how hard it is but I can't remember which is which! You can pick up a special map at the lift station with all the routes marked and just follow the signs...
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Nealglover, tried to do the circuit when I was in Morzine a couple of seasons ago. It was all going well until I got to Morgins, when I found that the Morgins-Avoriaz peak was closed so I had to go back via Chatel again! Then I got stuck on a lift for about ten minutes when it was closed due to high winds, saw people being 'rescued' from another lift and was barely able to move against the wind back down into Avoriaz... Still, after all that snow, conditions were beautiful the next day when the sun came out. Still, it was quite an adventure!
I just worked out my own route on the map. If I recall correctly, you have to use the bus at Chatel and Morgins.
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Only 1 bus is usually required (Linga to Chatel), but that can be bypassed via a long flat trail/road. No idea where it is... I just followed the guide. No bus required at Morgins, just a short 2 min walk.
On the French side, just 'follow the white rabbit', but note that many white rabbit (snow hare?) routes are indicated. They are all on the local piste maps afaik.
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andy, Interesting to know about not having to take bus at Linga. I have always used bus, does anyone know this route? Advice requested.
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Roy Hockley, I really don't remember how to get to it, but just remember it being a flat path that sort of turns into a back street. Whichever way you go, I think there's still a bit of a walk in Chatel to the cable car. It was also mentioned on one of the other Avoriaz/Morzine/...etc threads.
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Nealglover, Like homphomp, says
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The classic 'tour' is Avoriaz - Lindarets - Mossettes - Morgins (there's a blue which is direct and avoids the endless T-bars), quick walk or minibus, Super Chatel - Chatel ; bus to Linga - Plaine Dranse - Lindarets - Avoriaz.
The reverse is more time consuming as you have to wind your way through Switzerland from Morgins to Les Crozets; but has the advantage of being able to ski (if there's snow, natch) through Morgins.
PdS map
But there are endless variations on the theme. I'd suggest do it once 'vanilla' and then you can explore a bit next time, once you've got an idea of timings.
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Always done the loop the other way around, starting from Ardent Bubble...
Ardent-Lindarets-Plaine Drainse-Linga-(get sardine can bus)-Super Chatel-(detour via Torgon for some views)-Morgins (ski right into village, and walk a short distance)-Champoussin-Les Crosets-(detour via Champery/Avoriaz if time permits)-Lindarets-Ardent.
Certainly helps to have someone who knows where they are going, since it is a lot of different sectors. We've certainly skiied from top of Avoriaz back down to Ardent in fading light after doing the pretty much the longest route.
Tempted to do a few days in Morgins/Chatel, maybe in Jan, and explore a bit, since that's the only bit I'm not too familiar with.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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doctor_eeyore, Actually, the "classic" "circuit" from Morzine is Avoriaz (by however), Chavannette (The Wall), Crosets, Champoussin, Morgins and then as you suggest. The Lindarets=Mossettes link is "relatively" recent.
The real challenge is - Morzine, beer in Belvedere on far side of Mont Chery, Torgon, Chapelle d'Abondance, Morzine.
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David Murdoch, I stand corrected.
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You know it makes sense.
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doctor_eeyore, not at all, I'm sure you defined the current standard. I, I'm afraid, are a little dated.
Actually the fun one was up the Mossettes chair from Crosets then either down the couloir of the rock into the dark forest of Morgins or down the current under Mossette chair onto Abricotine. Sadly the chair has ruined all of that. Who invented chairlifts anyway?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I am off to PDS on 3rd Feb for 4 days. I have been reading the above and tyring to plan out a good day route. This will be my second time to PDS and I want to cover as much snow as possible this time.
Is this route do-able? and worthwhile/fun?
Ardent (d’Ardent) - Lindarets (Chaux Fluene) - Plaine Dranse (Les Combes) - Linga (Bus or walk) then (Super Chatel) I am a bit stuck on the best route straight into Morgins to avoid the T bars? Any suggestions? Then Morgins (La Foilleuse) Champoussin (Bochasses) (Aiguille des Champeys) (Pointe de l’Au) Les Crosets - (Crosets 1 or 2) (Ripaille 1&2) (Chavanette) Avoriaz - Lindarets - Ardent
We are early starters and late finishers so could this be done with a stop for lunch somewhere nice? Any suggestions variations, must sees etc would be gratefully received
I want to work in the black under the (Aiguille des Champeys) in Champoussin & The Swiss Wall if possible, could that be done? What are the timings on this likely to be?
Thanks in advance.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hey Andy, thanks for that. I checked the gps site....how cool is that on the google earth 3D as well. Would be great if someone could get the lifts and runs loaded onto that. Wow!
Someone on another thread said that a lift in Champery is closed now and replaced with a temp drag. So that might make the route a little hard/slower.
Thanks again though, getting excited like a small child now!
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