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Trousers + ski edge = bad news

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Getting stuff out and ready for my first trip of the season next week, I noticed a tiny (finger width) cut at the bottom of my trousers (TNF 'Hyvent' things if that makes a difference), presumably caused by falling in the same way I've managed to take some gouges out of one side of one of my boots Shocked

Does it make a difference (ie is it likely to grow?), and if so is there anything that can be done to patch/repair/stop it growing? It's really small and neat, so much so that I haven't noticed it before. The trousers in question are less than a year old too, hence why I'm a bit 'concerned' rolling eyes
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Probably won't grow unless you fiddle with it. The tech fabrics seem to have some sort of ripstop built in. Fix it with duck tape.
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Stick a patch on it and forget about it
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Patch it if lazy, otherwise good old needle & thread.
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There was a thread on this recently - try this link:

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?p=1124934#1124934

I bought some stuff called Tenacious Tape and repaired a couple of tears, but there are other suggestions on the thread.
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Hilarious. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Go on holiday and chill a bit - it might stop you being so anal.
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goretex patches (in camo)
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it might stop you being so anal.


Wanting to keep his gear in good nick is 'anal'? Are you absolutely sure you're not Mrs Whitegold? Toofy Grin
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Not much point in Goretex patches... any old waterproof fabric will do. By the time it has glue on it, Goretex isn't very water permeable...
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I'm normally a chilled kind of person, but...

Lizzard wrote:
Go on holiday and chill a bit - it might stop you being so anal.


When I've spent money on something, I don't really want it to disintegrate within a year or two. Seeing as I'm likely to fall in the exact same way, on the exact same bit of material with the exact same bit of ski edge a fair few more times I don't really want to end up with a massive shredded patch out of the leg just because I couldn't be arsed or 'wasn't anal enough' to repair it in the first place.

Thanks to everyone else for the constructive comments snowHead
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mark_s, Stitch them, but TBH when I noticed I had shredded my new ones after 1 day, I could not be bothered...

All the other pairs I have shredded I have sewn up. Nice bit of fine blanket stitch with a matching thread seems to work. Never managed to shred the same spot either, so don't panic Smile

It doesn't seem to have made a single cent/pennyworth of difference to the waterproofness, or cloth.

Don't worry about the appearance - lets face it, when have you EVER really looked at any other snowhead's trouser ends [or is that another fetish thread... Toofy Grin ]
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Duck tape.....makes you look like a gnarly pro.
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MarjMJ, I tend to fall on the same bit all the time (happens in the park a lot when you're still learning something new), which is why I was worried about it getting worse without attention.

Cheers everyone Smile
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Superglue can stop it running or else you can get Goretex patches that you iron on. There is also a self adhesive tape you can buy that is designed for sails, tents etc that would do the job.


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vetski, mark_s, everyone with trousers has 'finger width' cuts in them at the bottom. Get a life! Laughing
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My trousers are trashed. At the end of each day's skiing the bottom or the legs are filled up with snow because it's just the outer layer that's ripped. Think I'll invest in some gaffer-tape
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mark_s, top tip if you're repairing with Tenacious Tape or any other clear glue/tape - use a matching marker or felt-tip pen to colour in the edges of the tear before you seal it. I now have to look very hard to spot the 3 inch edge slash I managed to achieve. Which is good - they're the nicest ski pants I've ever had! Also, when I ripped mine, the tear went through to the lining - so I enlarged the lining tear and inserted the tape to seal the rip from the inside. Then I taped the tear in the lining. If that makes me anal, so be it. It beats mistaking acidity for wit...
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vetski, I was coming to this thread to suggest exactly the same thing - by the sounds of it if the tear is still relatively fresh and un-frayed I would imagine tape used from the inside would make a repair almost invisible. I would certainly be having a bash at sealing any tear before it got worse no matter how small.
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And I'll second the dab of superglue at the edges. Rather than the standard tape... go for black Super Duck and cut the patches in a roundish shape... lasts a few years.
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mark_s wrote:
I tend to fall on the same bit all the time (happens in the park a lot when you're still learning something new), which is why I was worried about it getting worse without attention.
Detune your edges... (ski powder not pipes... Shocked ) problem solved... wink

I would argue these are good, constructive, if slightly unorthodox suggestions. Though are probably not quite what you were after.
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skisimon, Laughing
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mark_s wrote:
I tend to fall on the same bit all the time (happens in the park a lot when you're still learning something new), which is why I was worried about it getting worse without attention.
Detune your edges... (ski powder not pipes... Shocked ) problem solved... wink

I would argue these are good, constructive, if slightly unorthodox suggestions. Though are probably not quite what you were after.
I think a better solution is to stop falling over.
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Is there a recession in the UK or something? Most people would throw them away and buy new ones! Gorden Brown would insist you do.
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I always take it as a sign that my edges are not sharp enough unless my trousers look like they've done 2 rounds with Kreuger (F). Razz
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Shocked Jesus. Goretex patch purchased, and while taking a look at the bit to patch I glanced at the other leg and there are about 3-4 cuts in it, including a huuuge gash in one bit. How I missed it before now I haven't a clue!
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Last year I saw a chap with small rubber panels, about 6" x 6" on the inside lower leg. I think they were Degre7 stretch? I've got some thin ribbed textile-backed rubber sheeting that I use when working under the Landy and was toying with fixing this to my treasured but battered salopettes, but what adhesive Puzzled
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NoDosh, on the thread I linked to above, several snowHeads mention some stuff called Seam Sealer, which appears to be an adhesive suitable for ski pants and tents (never tried it myself) - but I have no idea if it would work with the textile backing of your rubber stuff.
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mark_s wrote:
Shocked Jesus. Goretex patch purchased, and while taking a look at the bit to patch I glanced at the other leg and there are about 3-4 cuts in it, including a huuuge gash in one bit. How I missed it before now I haven't a clue!


because it happens all the time, but unless the cuts are very large, they aren't really obvious until you specifically look for them.

I'm largely with Lizzard on this, although I wouldn't have put it quite the way she did. It really isn't worth bothering about. The cuts don't seem to fray or grow IME, you just get a few more of them.

If you bother enough to deal with a single one, you will be patching your ski trousers at the end of most days on the slopes.

And while you think you fall in the same spot regularly, I think you will find that actually means a few cm separateion between cuts, rather than exactly on top of each other (usually).
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alex_heney wrote:


If you bother enough to deal with a single one, you will be patching your ski trousers at the end of most days on the slopes.


If that were true my pants would now have at least 90 cuts in them. But they have maybe 5 or 6, which I'm now thinking of patching.
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alex_heney, exactly. I was worried that with a few cuts close together, they might decide to join forces and make a hole. Or with some slight provocation (accidentally catching them on something), they might decide to join forces and make a hole.
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vetski wrote:
NoDosh, on the thread I linked to above, several snowHeads mention some stuff called Seam Sealer, which appears to be an adhesive suitable for ski pants and tents (never tried it myself) - but I have no idea if it would work with the textile backing of your rubber stuff.


Thanks Vetski, I'll give that a try Very Happy
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Ah they'll be fine: as long as they're not some cheap crap like d2b wink
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Nononononono! Mine are Degre7 goretex, just not the stretch ones. Think I'll go with the patches for this holiday and depending on how they hold up will look at the rubber alternative

Shocked

Ok, that looks bad..... Laughing
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Go to any quality mountaineering shop (to get some idea) and have a look at their winter mountaineering salopettes/overtrousers. The lower inner 12 inches of each leg is reinforced with a stong fabric to help reduce the damage that occurs when wearing crampons. Armed with this knowledge get a tailor to sew some like patches on your ski trousers. Or just use gaffer tape. Or the lazy alternative, tell everybody it's the latest "2009 through venting system by gortex" and be the envy of the slopes, bars and mountain restaurants.

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