 Poster: A snowHead
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Have spent ages searching the web to no avail. Why didn't I just search here first?
More info than you probably want but I generally ski in insulated trousers with thermal long johns.
I've just bought a pair of shell trousers (as the insulation sometimes is a little too cosy in spring) and I'm trying to find a pair or two of fleece longjohns with about the same weight as my mid layer top.
Everything I find seems to be base layer weight which means I think I'll be freezing my hind parts.
Any suggestions anyone?
Thanks in advance.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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This might sound a bit odd..... But the closest I have seen in this country are actually thermal Pyjamas! I have a couple of pairs which are medium thickness fleecy material that probably would do the trick..... I have seen fleece pants elsewhere, specifically mec.ca which is where I intend to get mine.....
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I use windproof running tights, not good for sitting around in the snow but great when on the move.
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buns, thanks, I found the MEC site but am being boring about paying more than the cost of the pants in shipping and duty! They look good.
Masque, I have a pair of patagonia r1 tights, which I'll use as default (and use for winter running, but I still think I'll have a cold bum.
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And I'm trying to find the best price for a audio equiped 'Red' helmet for 'spawn' of Masque for his birthday - and saving money for the week after next. I already owe Kuwait Ian a beer and I'm assuming the camel sh***r's gonna have a raging thirst!
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I be likin' the cut of them. Thanks folks! Johnny sorry to hear of your illness, but hey! more time to surf Snowheads. Masque, good luck...
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David Murdoch, just make sure you avoid cotton!!! Merino wool and/or polyester or other hydrophobic fabric.
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Got some good thermals by Sub Zero for Crimbo from little brother which I've just tested for a week in the Pyrenees. The packaging says they do 2 weights. I have the heavier type (2) which is fleecy lined tactel, wicks well, comfortable and warm. Good feature is they are quite short as I don't like thermals going down into the boot. Unfortunately I can't find a web site. I also have Low Alpine leggings recommeneded by Masque which also work well after getting me mum to chop a 8" off the legs and hemming them back up.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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ssh, absolutely, as they say, "cotton'll kill ya"
Although Vaude do a nice line in proofed jeans http://www.vaude.com
Ideally all I want is a polartec 200 weight long john. Can't be so hard one would imagine...
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rich, But they're for 'ladies' (Q Little Britain trailer, ssh will NEVER understand). But then with the physiological changes in the human form that have been recently noted . . . maybe it won't make much difference.
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You know it makes sense.
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David Murdoch,
Not sure why you would want more than base layer. I use Gore-tex shell pants with long johns and always use a base layer weight. And sometimes they are too warm. I have certainly never considered I would need something warmer!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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JT, I'm just of the opinion that I need to compensate for the lack of insulation in the shells. My recently expired pants were similar weight goretex by with an insulating layer. Underneath had Peak base layer. Definitely think I need the same degree of warmth for winter.
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Poster: A snowHead
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David Murdoch,
I'm thinking my legs got used to the cold running around playing football for all those years..!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Look more at climbing stores for a wide range. I have a pair of Lowe Alpine fleece joggers which I use for almost all winter sports under shell salopettes.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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JT, didn't play football!
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Do you reckon all these "technical base layers" are actually worth the effort? I've skied with and without and never really noticed the difference. Nowadays I just wear a long-sleeve cotton t-shirt under my jacket, and just a pair of boxers under the salopettes, and I don't get cold. I ski the Alps, mainly in January, and I am not "big-boned" before you ask!!!!
I might feel differently if I were to ski in Jan in Canada but I can't help feeling all these £40 base layers are a bit of a rip-off.... sorry!
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Definitely worth the effort (having tried both sides of the argument). Don't need to spend 40 quid though...
Found a fine pair of midweights at tog24
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Icebreaker merino base layers are worth every penny and will last for yonks. I feel the cold worse than most on lifts and climbs. I also ski hard and sweat hard! Skiing's a sport and cotton's completely hopeless as a sports fabric - ask any runner.
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the ice perv, cotton ain't good. It soaks up sweat and stays wet, so it will cool down. You'll be cold and damp as a result honest.
David Murdoch, I use a pair of ski pants that are very nearly a shell as there's nearly no insulation at all. But this hasn't been a problem for me in Europe, although the old back bottom can get a bit chilly on long lifts.
As I'm off to Canada this year I plan to use an old pair of cut down Ron Hills on really cold days.
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I've been using thermals made by the Swedish outfit ODLO for a number of years now. Can only recommend them. I also use them with just a thin Gore-Text shell. I'm told that a lot of cross country skiers use this stuff because it's just brilliant at carrying the sweat away form your body. See http://www.odlo.com/ . There's a page with lists of shops selling ODLO stuff in Britain if you're interested http://www.odlo.com/custom/shops/ .
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Odlo gear is not cheap but is very high quality and well worth it. The speed with which it dries out is incredible. I've got a some Odlo base and mid-layers that are still in great nick and going strong after 10 years of use every winter.
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