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Nagano / Hokkaido?
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I'm travelling round Japan at the moment.I would like to go skiing for a few days on or around 20December.I thought Nagano as it is close to Kyoto and has backpacker hostels. I need to get back to Osaka for my flight eventually.Can I get to Nagano from Takayama? Might fit better with itinerary.I could do further North if the bullet trains are quick or have to ski mid December?Night trains or night buses are an option with the JR railpass though I hear night trains don't usually have sears - all beds I'd couchettes.Are there hostels in Hokkaido?Any suggestions?
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Takayama to Nagano by train will take at least 5hrs7mins, with a minimum of 2 changes.....a bit like getting to Wengen for the MSB! There are small ski areas in Gifu.....incl HidaTakayama: longest piste 2,000m. You could do worse than hire a car and visit the local ski areas....... check out www.snowjapan.com , but if you want something bigger Nagano is probably better. Last time I took a night train from Ueno(Tokyo) to Nagano there were only seats, no couchettes. 'Bullet' trains by nature are quick wink
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So, is it better to get back to Tokyo and take the bullet? I'd be coming back from south and Kyoto anyway so doubt the time saving will be much.
Tgere's also the overnight to Sapporo. I have a Japan rail pass so should save me some.
Think I'm looking at Happo-one or Niseko. A car would eat even further into my diminishing budget Smile
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? :0 ?
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GordonFreeman, have you gone onto the hokkaido thread on the snowreports - there is a another snowHead in situ that might be able to give you the word on the ground (not to take away from Mac46 input at all)

Mac46, 5hrs7mins....nice Laughing
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doogo, ara sure it's the logic of it all isn't it?! if I hadda given him the number of minutes spent on platforms he might have become befuddled.
:0 =??????? Mr Freeman, Sir, like most travellers you're talking yourself into a decision which none of us will influence at all, at all. A final word before I return to my balcony to gaze upon the distant snow-capped hills and wonder if it's worth the effort to drive an hour and 20mins to ski for a few hours before our annual ski club meeting at 4:30; you'd better check the snow reports and let them do your deciding.......I've left here(Zao) when we've had 185cm of perfectly wonderful snow and gone to that super-hyped northern ski area N. to find 64cm(measured it meself!) of rock hard crud. As the song goes, Seasons Differ. And don't go bothering that nice fella MikePow; he's got enough on his plate with the 30% drop in visitors and nobody wanting to buy those condominiums he and McAlpine's Fusiliers have been building and the snow almost gone. Where ever you end up, enjoy! Sure isn't that what it's all about. Last night's tennis cub party was just great......I think Confused Maybe I'd better not drive today...........
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Ha ha Mac46

All I've got on my plate is great Japanese and Western food Wink

I replied to GordonFreeman on the snowjapan forum.

Go with Mac46's advice. Honshu at that time of the year.
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 After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
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but if you're determined to use that JR Pass........Tokyo-Hachinohe on the Hayate Express, on to Aomori by local train (journey time ,approx 3hrs 17mins) then the night train from Aomori to Sapporo(journey time 7hrs 25mins......leaves at 22:45, arr 06:07)
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Wow...that is a long trip.
Honshu then...fingers crossed
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It looks like there's a massive dump coming to Hokkaido this weekend.
What are the conditions like there anyone?
Might be worth making the overnight trip up for skiing on Monday/Tuesday?
The temps in Hakuba are waaaay too higgh for anything decent...
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