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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Is there any real indication that this is any different to the way they normally operate?
I don't know the answer, I'm just wondering.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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alex_heney, they always run a reserve list, but people going through the cookery course would usually expect to start at the beginning of the season (waste of money otherwise, as reserves usually carry on jobhunting and often disappear before you get to them). Anecdotal information suggests that more people have been put on reserve than is usual.
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| Lizzard wrote: |
| alex_heney, they always run a reserve list, but people going through the cookery course would usually expect to start at the beginning of the season (waste of money otherwise, as reserves usually carry on jobhunting and often disappear before you get to them). Anecdotal information suggests that more people have been put on reserve than is usual. |
Is it potentially classic big company 'left hand' vs 'right hand' - HR are (IMHO) the most useless part of a big company - perhaps they've been recruiting at a similar rate to last year - i.e. we need 100 chalet hosts, 50 reps etc whereas the guys that manage the yield (for want of a better term) are thinking of dropping stand-buy beds as they might have less bookings?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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bertie bassett, probably.
Lizzard, why 'evil empire'? Is that because they have a big% of the market and can squeeze resort suppliers?
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achilles, more to do with their attitude to staff/guests/anyone really. 
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Lizzard, fair enough. My last experience with Thomson was very good - but that was quite a while ago.
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I worked for TUI in the UK for 5 years and I thought they were a good company. Until they made me redundant  .
I'd work for them again though and I'd use them for holidays, which isn't true of all the holiday companies I've worked for.
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alan empty, I like the involvement of owners of accommodation (eg, close to Lizzard, the Lutins and Scubaski). That said, no complaints about Thomson.
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achilles, yeah if it wasn't for the children I'd probably DIY most of my holidays.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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alan empty, We are the opposite, for us because of the kids we have DIYed most of ours. Just makes everything more flexible for us, travel, accomodation ski schools etc, just need to book up in advance. Before we had our own place we would know where we wanted to go at least 9 months ahead.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Gilberts Fridge, I likes the freedom that DIY'ing our holidays gave us, even when we went with tour ops we rarely took advantage of their services, preferring to do our own thing, and using them as a means to get where we wanted to be. Once I discovered the internet, TO's became history.
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I'm very pleased to say that we have benefited from this - we had a last minute drop out from one of our team and managed to replace them the next day with a lovely girl who rang us up on the off chance having been told she no longer had a job for this season with Crystal two weeks before she was due to leave the UK! Their loss our gain 
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You know it makes sense.
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katski, she'll probably have a much better season with you as well - bargain all round.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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alex_heney, they always run a reserve list, but people going through the cookery course would usually expect to start at the beginning of the season (waste of money otherwise, as reserves usually carry on jobhunting and often disappear before you get to them). Anecdotal information suggests that more people have been put on reserve than is usual.
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I imagine it's a mix of things. I went on one of the cookery courses (Crystal paid for it, all I had to do was get to/from the departure airport) and know of a couple of people who were originally told they were going out (contract signed, deposit paid), but who are now at the top of the reserve list. The cookery courses done this way are a relatively new thing, I got the impression it was so that Crystal know they have staff that are capable, and to try and avoid desperately seeking staff around now (I get the impression that's been the case in previous years) to fill the Chalet Host positions, thus offering jobs to those who perhaps otherwise wouldn't have got one on the basis of their cooking skills. It just so happens that this has coincided with the economic slowdown so there are more people looking for jobs, and fewer people booking holidays as they economise so staff requirements have suddenly dropped, at least for the early part of the season with them then sending more out around January in time for the peak ski time.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Sitter, January isn't peak season. Once they get through Christmas and New Year, the next time they'll be busy is mid-February. Though they do aim to sack a few in each resort during the first week or so as a warning to everyone else.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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No complaints about TUI here, but that's as a customer rather than staff. When I did a season I worked for a small independent TO who eventually got swallowed up by Inghams. I thought they were OK as employers at the time, but looking back now I have worked for many more mundane UK companies I realise that pretty much all TOS treat their seasonal staff rather poorly...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sitter, January isn't peak season. Once they get through Christmas and New Year, the next time they'll be busy is mid-February. Though they do aim to sack a few in each resort during the first week or so as a warning to everyone else.
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Hence I said 'in time for the peak season', ie send em out in January (towards the end, should've said that before), give them the week or two training and then to the resorts.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Helen Beaumont, the last resort form me with a TO, in more ways than one , was a 4.5 hour transfer from Geneva to Chatel including a detour to let some others change bus. We left Gatwick at 7 and got in to the chalet at about 4 local time. Nothing provided to eat or no oportunity to buy anything after the brekkie on the aircraft. Glad we had no kids back then
In Europe I much prefer driving to resort now because of the freedom it gives, and when compared to a total time to get to the PDS of 11 hours it's not much longer or huge difference in cost for a family of 4.
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Gilberts Fridge, our worst was returning from the famous La Rosiere. It was snowing heavily. the minibus slid down the very windy mountain road, and dumped us in Aime. It was 7am. We were still there at 8.30
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Helen Beaumont, We had similar experience with one particular TO two years in a row (should have learned after first trip)
First time we were dumped in the middle of nowhere for over a hour for a connection bus with no shelter. 
The second time we ended up back at the airport four and a half hours before the flight was due to go.
Never used that TO again no matter how good their deals are
We still use other TO without problems though.
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Spies tell me Descent International have just dropped chalets/staff. Shortage of wealthy bankers out there this year.
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Lizzard, wonder if that includes Tom Aikens possibly the worlds most expensive chalet boy!!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Lizzard wrote: |
| Spies tell me Descent International have just dropped chalets/staff. Shortage of wealthy bankers out there this year. |
Not really a surprise, but you'd be gutted if you were due to work for them...
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