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Discuss.
(As we are doing all the classics at the moment)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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It's illegal not to on a motorbike in England on the public highway.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Boredsurfing, unless you are sikh 
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I've considered this quite a lot and just thought about what occasions I wear my helmet. It depends on exactly what I'm doing I suppose but I don't wear it when I'm walking as the impact speeds are generally fairly low, however when jogging / running I always where one. That said, if I'm on the way to the shops, get out of my car (after removing my helmet and leaving it on the passenger seat) and then walk into a lamp post on the way to the newsagent to buy the lottery ticket, fracturing my skull in the process, I will freely admit that I was an idiot. I don't think helmets should be made compulsory for pedestrians nor around the house except for children but one place that I would always remove my helmet is in bed as I think that the neck strap could get entangled on the bed frame whilst I am asleep and think that the risk outweighs the benefit. I usually where it when I am skiing but would not be interested in understanding any further research. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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moffatross, you are obviously a very sensible person, but do you think it wise to buy lottery tickets in the current economic climate? 
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would u vtt / mountainbike without one? think heads are delicate?
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| fatbob wrote: |
Discuss.
(As we are doing all the classics at the moment) |
It's been discussed to death on this forum.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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joke all you like but i am convinced would be dead now if i hadnt been wearing a helmet after crashes skiing and on my motocross bike....
fatbob, do you wear one?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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skimottaret, Yep - branches and chairlift bars are hard. I was trying a bit of a golden oldie troll though.
Tomorrow - Is La Rosiere any good for skiing? 
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You know it makes sense.
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skimottaret, speaking of which, has your vision settled down after that fall you had?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Hurtle, mine hasn't after that summer I had.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hurtle, but "Ode to Fall" just wouldn't have been written, Shirley?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yoda, Indeed!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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if someone will not ski without a helmet on, then has an accident, then the accident is a result of wearing the helmet!
false sense of security and all that, plus unless it's below -10 i get too hot with a lid on.
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I was trying a bit of a golden oldie troll though.
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fair enough, it was late, I had just gotten home after a very long flight and you suckered me in 
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But then again, some of the neurosurgeons I have worked with for a good few winters can argue quite convincingly against helmet wearing...
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fatbob, ha ha ha ha ha.............. bored, huh..?
As it happens I don't wear one..
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I can only think of the words of the 3 wise vultures from the Jungle book
"Dont start that again"
If you want wear one if you dont dont. If you are a sikh claim it is because of religion
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Are you still an idiot if you have just got the one partner and are using other forms of birth control?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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offpisteskiing, could you outline their arguments please?
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Yoda, the ones often given, with regard to cycling, are increases risk taking as feel invulnerable, can't hear traffic so well. some injuries are compounded by the helmet crushing your skull
But I'm sure you could argue that seatbelts have caused deaths where people have been stuck in cars - so we shouldn't wear them
Elizabeth B, Uh?
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| Boris wrote: |
| But I'm sure you could argue that seatbelts have caused deaths where people have been stuck in cars - so we shouldn't wear them |
Indeed you could, but the evidence would prove you wrong.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Kramer wrote: |
| Boris wrote: |
| But I'm sure you could argue that seatbelts have caused deaths where people have been stuck in cars - so we shouldn't wear them |
Indeed you could, but the evidence would prove you wrong. |
Are you saying you have proof that nobody has ever died in a car crash as a result of being trapped by said seatbelt??
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Red Leon wrote: |
| Kramer wrote: |
| Boris wrote: |
| But I'm sure you could argue that seatbelts have caused deaths where people have been stuck in cars - so we shouldn't wear them |
Indeed you could, but the evidence would prove you wrong. |
Are you saying you have proof that nobody has ever died in a car crash as a result of being trapped by said seatbelt?? |
I think the suggestion is that had the person NOT been wearing a seatbelt, they would have been dead anyway. So whilst a seatbelt may result in a delay getting someone out of a vehicle, it is highly unlikey it contributed to their death.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Boris wrote: |
| But I'm sure you could argue that seatbelts have caused deaths where people have been stuck in cars......... |
| Kramer wrote: |
| Indeed you could, but the evidence would prove you wrong. |
| Standee wrote: |
| I think the suggestion is that had the person NOT been wearing a seatbelt, they would have been dead anyway. So whilst a seatbelt may result in a delay getting someone out of a vehicle, it is highly unlikey it contributed to their death. |
Kramer's not suggesting anything. He's offering us a "fact" which I don't think can be proven.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Red Leon, I think he is suggesting that statistics (or evidence) would suggest that seatbelts save more lives than they take
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I think forcing people to wear seat belts does save more lives in cars as helmets undoubtably do in skiing....but I think we should go further...
Skiing is clearly dangerous and not just to the individual but to passive skier/wayward pedistrian or innocent worker with whom you may collide - even children are put at risk by selfish individuals ...helmet or not it is a drain on the health service and takes resouces away from those who may need it the most. It doesn't matter how much tax it raises to pay for the hospitals and don't get me started on the enviromental problems..
Ban it and ban it now...
Just like smoking.
Discuss.
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Ban it and ban it now...
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I work in IT and wouldn't be able to go skiing if IT was banned - so I vote to keep IT
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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A few seasons ago I wipedout and smacked the back of my head on some ice..was mildy concussed and couldn't ski the rest of the day..so now wear a helmet cos it means a knock doesn't put and end to the days skiing..plus its got speaks in th eear flaps that are soooo much better then headphones..so its winwin
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Boris, helmet - condom........what else would it be?
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Boris, You work in IT?
Your the sort I'm talking about reckless and feckless...Ban IT
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| could you outline their arguments please? |
Yoda, Sadly not with any accuracy (they have since been filed under lots of other stuff in my memory). Will ask them again this winter and report back...
Off the top of my head there are issues/arguments to do with increased inertia + increased lever-arm effect/possible forced neck angles etc but don't quote me on this.
PS this is not my personal view on helmets, I am merely offering some counter-arguments...
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Any one know if the place in Canada, Trembler or something is any good.
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I cannot believe this thread has actually taken off! 
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FAQ
(funny on several different levels) 
