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I'm off to Wengen next month for a week snowHead
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Elizabeth B, Where are you staying ?
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D G Orf, TBA. My parents are staying in the Hirschen, so when they reopen next week, I'll see what deal they'll offer (cash is really tight at the moment due to 3 ski trips). Alternatively I'm looking at Wengenlodge backpackers.....and getting my parents to buy me food!!
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Ah ha Ok well then a couple of options for you, you could try the Bernerhof at the top of the highstreet in Wengen, they are fairly cheap and the food is supposed to be fairly good, the Wengen Lodge is cheap and chearful BUT it is right at the bottom of Wengen and the Hirschen is almost at the top of Wengen with a VERY steep walk up, you could also try the Alpenrose, if you don't mind a very small room with only a hand basin in it (toilet and shower just down the hall) you could ask to have the same room I have (say I sent you ) with meals at the current exchange rate IF they will do you the same deal it should work out to about £40 per night Dinner Bed and Breakfast, they do very good food by the way. If you'd like to try that option let me know (PM me if you like) and I shall let them know which may increase the chance of a good deal for you.
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Thanks for the suggestions. At the moment I'm seeing what options I can come up with that involve evening meals at the Hirschen...my parents are staying half board, so it'd be nice to have evening meal with them. But I can't sort that until they reopen in a couple of weeks time.
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You might try the Falken, not to far up the road to the Hirschen from there
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Just booked in to the Hirschen. Sfr 69 per night, half board......not too bad (especially as it's on my dad's credit card Wink )
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Very good price actually, let us know what the hotel/food is like to stay in please
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Will do. It's a single attic room, wash basin only...bathroom on same floor. Better than a youth hostel though Wink
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Definately, the room I have at the Alpenrose is slightly more but not in the attic and I get a balcony with a good view so I don't mind, besides you try getting halfboard anywhere in the UK for under £35 per night !
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Its quite on this thread at the mo....

Anyone heard any news relating to the region ??
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Nothing new I'm afraid, havn't heard from my friends out there since the summer season started, I expect they are a bit to busy to chat, As far as I'm aware there is only one lift being replaced this season at Innerwengen and no changes to the hotels, but I could be wrong.

There have been discussions about there being a new lift from Arven to Eigergletscher (replacing the old t-bar at Salzegg) but those discussions have been going backwards and fowards since the late 1960's as I understand it permission was obtained but the lift was never built which is why they can still consider it. Also I suspect that the bumps lift may not run next season as it was in severe finacial difficulties this year, just does not have enough useage any more, Discusions have also been had about the possibility of replacing the Honegg t-bar with a chairlift because it is crossed by multiple pistes, unfortunately the Honegg lift is subject to quite high winds so if it is replaced with a chairlift it may run less often. I did hear that further work may also be undertaken on the rail link from Zweilutchinen to Interlaken Ost with the aim being to make that 2 lines all th way but it was just a rumor
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They're in the process of extending the double tracking area just below Brandegg to extend the crossover point (which is currently just below Brandegg) up to the station.
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Yes Elizabeth they have been doing that for the last year or so, I think it's supposed to be finished for this winter, which may help a little with the transport system, so have you been out there and come back then ? What was the Hirshen like ?
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Has anyone ventured to the Mystery Park in Interlaken. We thought this year we would take a look when we return in the summer but thought i would ask the question here first before waisting our time ?
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Chris I have not but I do know some people who have, one thought it was rubbish the other said it was ok but not brilliant, the premis of the park seems to be that all the ancient sites like the Pyramids and Stone Henge were constructed by visitors from another world or something along those lines, it i supposed to be for families but my friends thought it was only any good for pre teens, it is also supposed to be quite expensive, apparently there is a bus from Interlaken Ost to the site.
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Chris Brookes, I looked at the promotional stuff for it, and it didn't interest me at all.

D G Orf, the Hirshen was very nice. I had a single room with washbasin....basic but pleasant (and importantly had a tv to watch the Euro 2004 games on when I wanted an earlish night). My paretns had en-suite. The bedroom was an okay size, but the bathroom was quite small.

The food was great - not one bad meal. It was nicely presented and reasonable portion sizes. There was no choice, but they did say that if you didn't like the menu then as long as you let them know of a morning, then you could pay to "upgrade" to the restaurant menu. Having said that, when my mum said that she didn't like curry, they did sweet & sour for her instead, and on another occasion provided chicken nuggets (proper ones - not frozen junk!) instead of a veal fillet that had cheese in (my mum also doesn't eat cheese rolling eyes )

The hotel has a sauna and jacuzzi that you can hire out, although I limited myself to one swim in the Wengen outdoor pool (bloody freezing at first....but where else can you lie back and relax surrounded on all sides by snowcapped mountains - and getting respect from every cable car passenger!!!
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Elizabeth B, it's good to hear that there is more than one traditionally run restaurant in Wengen, their attitude to dinners sounds very much like that of the Alpenrose, i.e they have a set meal but if you don't like the dish they will change it for you so long as you inform them in a reasonable amount of time, when I get the time I shall add the Hirshen to my websites list of good hotels to stay in
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Well D G Orf, you've convinced me, 2006 will be year I go to the Jungfrau region, probably in Late January - Early Febuary.

If you don't mind me asking, when are you going next.
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It's a good question, unfortunately I have a mother with Alzheimers and I am her carer, the problem is finding somewhere for her to stay and be looked after whilst I'm away, if I can sort out a solution I expect to be out there in early Feb, assuming I'm there I will be staying in the Alpenrose in Wengen
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RICHARDB - Which resort will you be staying at ??

DG Orf - If you change your mind and stay near the end othat month let me know and we can meet up.

I dont think we will bother going to that park then,we were just considering where to go if the weather turned bad.
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Chris have you tried the Ballenberg (sp?) open air musem, one day a week (it might be once a month) they do a steam train from Interlaken Ost up there the rest of the time it's normal trains and a coach, lots of different buildings from all over Switzerland with different things going on inside, meats in the smoke house a vineyard structure, charcoal burning an apothacary or doctors house and so on, lots to do and you can be there all day, I've been there in rain and sun and both times enjoyed myself. Alternativly try St Beatus Hole on the edge of lake Thun, The castles at Thun, Oberhofen and Spiez are all open to the public, or of course a trip to Bern
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No i havent but i will add that and the others to the list of ideas,thanks David.
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Happy to help, our Swiss friends tell us that we have seen more of Switzerland than they have, in total about 4 months worth of travelling all over Switzerland
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Not long to go and we can't wait to get off this rock !!
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Lucky you, I'm stuck here I know where I'd rather be Crying or Very sad
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Me too Crying or Very sad
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Just pre-booked tandem paragliding for us !!Going from the Schilthorn down to Lauterbrunnen,if you are going to do, might aswell make it a big one !! Razz Razz
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Chris Brookes, Let us know what it's like (not that I'll ever do it Laughing ) if you can get some pics so much the better Little Angel
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Go for it. I did a paraglide years ago from the hills above Interlaken. We flew over lake Thun and landed near the shore. A fantastic experience - take a disposable camera with you!!
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When you've done it I'll tell a little story ... but not until Laughing
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I want to ask you David....but i wont until we return !! I will have plenty of video and still footage to show you David...
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I've now seen all these places in a documentary on the alpine railway on UK Travel (or some similar channel)

Some really fantastic views, slightly spoilt by the trainspotter obsessional commentary...and whoever decided to run the railway up to the Jungfraujoch was clearly bonkers! Very Happy
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...and whoever decided to run the railway up to the Jungfraujoch was clearly bonkers!

I think his name was Adolph Guyer, he actually sketched out the route one day sitting over on the Schilthorn, if you compare his pencil sketch to the actual route built it is remarkably similar
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I believe they mentioned the chap's name and showed the sketch, but it was between bouts of telling me about the number of cars in each set and the varying types of profile for the rack drive...and he didn't even get to see it finished!
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No but he was inspired, he decided right from the start that the railway would be electricly powered, at that time no railway in the world used electricity, he also decided to use hydro power when that too was in its infancy. More importantly after the one and only fatal accident (that was not his fault) he implemented a series of safety measures that ensured there were no other deaths, compare that with any other engineering project of similar scope of that period and you will see just how impressive that was, mind you the explosives store did blow up (no loss of life) with the result that it was actually reported in the press that the mountain had moved and that the explosion was heard in Germany Shocked As a project manager and civil engineer he's definately an impressive figure, though I believe like Brunnel he too was somewhat short snowHead
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I'm back safe and sound BUT didnt do the jump in the end due to high winds . I could have done one at Beatenberg but i fancied the Schilthorn jump..We are back at Xmas/New Year so will do it then. Instead we did 3 days of hiking around Murren and took some lovely pictures... Truely relaxing it was... Cool
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Chris Brookes, now you are back.. several years ago a fellow guest at my hotel decided to do a tandem jump from the schilthorn, what made it unusuall was that he was 72years old and a preacher, he told us after the flight that whilst it had been an incredible experience his most abiding memory was looking down and seeing nothing beneath him for several thousand feet, at that point he developed the sudden desire for a quick prayer just to be on the safe side Laughing
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You had me worried David...lol

Counting the days now till Xmas/New Year time when we go back..and hopefully the weather will be fine to do the jump
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If anyone's interested the ski passes this year will have photos on if you go for 10 days or more, don't get a special photo though as they are now printed on the passes so they can either scan an existing photo (passport pic possibly) or take yours in the station, this takes a few minutes though so try to pick a quiet time if you don't want to upset anyone, from memory I think they will issue ski passes after about 5.30pm for the next day
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