 Poster: A snowHead
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I should know this really 
Pistes around here are marked blue red or black.
Which is the easiest, middle and hardest? ok even I know that black is the "hardest" for want of another word but which one is the easier of blue or red? I've never paid any attention to what particular piste I'm on, I don't look at the mountain that way.
thanking you already,
A. Dumbass
Wengen
CH
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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blue
Edit: and they don't do gold...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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In ascending order of difficulty:
Green
Blue
Red
Black
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stab,
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Green? Never heard of them, I don't think we have them here
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You do when there isn't any snow. 
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stab, From my experience no green in Switzerland if that's where you are. Just Blue, Red and Back in increasing order of supposed difficulty.
However, now that I am a 'more experienced' skier I am subscribing to the more enlightened viewpoint that the condition of the snow is more important than the slope grading having skied both Fond (blue) and Rhodos (red) in VT and having categorically decided that they had got the grading muddled up 
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Aren't they all white?
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stab, Your idea to just ski what you find and hyweljenkins, that they are all white are, as two concepts that I've heard proposed several times before, statements that make a huge amount more sense since VT than they ever did before. iI used to think that the slope grading was the absolute news about how difficult things could be. I now know how wrong that was - all sorts of things come into it - snow quality (time of day, warm/cold, amount of use/churned up quality, powder/hard pack/corduroy/ice-y), visbility, and yes, I think I will add them separately (though they really snow quality things) SODDIN' BLOODY MOGULS
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Megamum, I've seen people absolutley spazz out once they see the black poles, they were doing fine before that. Moguls are fine until they are on the landing from somewhere, then it's my turn to spazz out.
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stab, how are you on the snow skate (to side track the thread) we don't get enough snow here to have them out and about
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I've done Black runs that have been easier than moguled blue runs. The grading is a very rough guide and varies greatly from resort to resort and Country to Country.
And stab, you then have the North America gradings with all sorts of Diamonds.
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You know it makes sense.
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and it's all marketing (as discussed on here before) - i.e. resort x wants to capture more of the 'family' market so downgrades a couple of blacks to reds and reds to blues and blues to greens et voila..henceforth a great family resort (well looks that way from the stats)
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Poster: A snowHead
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Yeh it is hard. Good fun on the flat deck though.
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Does not compute
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Sage, try Verte in Val d'Isere at about 4pm. It's a green run back to La Daille, and is hilarious - bodies everywhere. As almost all of the ski schools use it it has some fantastic moguls by 3pm, only for a fifty metres or so, but some of them are quite large and all of them irregular. I had a discussion with an American woman while her husband was bricking it:
Me: Use the entire width of the piste and you'll be fine.
Her: I know how to ski.
Me: Well, looks to me like you're sh_tting yourself.
Her: This is a green run - it's ridiculous.
Me: Actually, it's white.
Her: It's obsurd to expect beginners to try this.
Me: There's a lift there - you could go back up and take the gondola down.
Her: This is stupid.
Me: This is Val d'Isere, baby, not frikkin' Whistler. You should have checked out its reputation before you came.
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hyweljenkins, is that the run that starts as a track and also has a notorious area susceptible to ice about 2 thirds the way down? If so, hilarious indeed. Almost carnage on a couple of runs one December I seem to recall.
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hyweljenkins, a bit mean - that is very much a one off bit of grading, even for Val d'I, and it is (for about 100metres) very misleading.
Mind you - for good skiers it is very exhilarating to take that bit straight! (But wait till it is empty).
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Chasseur, not that I remember, but you get the Daille chair and turn off to the right towards the Mont Blanc chair, and then head down. There's a bridge you pass under before the piste splits (it's just divided by a fence) and joins Piste "G".
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I've been trying to convince certain members of my family to pay a little less attention to piste gradings but they won't have it.
Think I'll just forward this thread to them!
Megamum's post in particular, and I completely concur with stab's point about people losing it just because they can see a black (or red) pole.
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hyweljenkins, sounds familiar, but the run I recall (def marked green), runs down past some hideous (IMV) apartments on the left at the bottom and terminates by what I think is a bubble lift - poss not the same run? It was quite a few years ago now to be honest.
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most of the time a black is a black or a red is a red just because of a 100 m stretch of difficult slope, otherwise it would be a lower grade. A blue with a shaded area that gets iced up can be much worse than a red !! 
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You know it makes sense.
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snowball, you can see how hard that stretch from the bottom of the Semanmille lift, so if you get stuck in the moguls, tough. If you're a jogger you wouldn't try for a sub-four hour marathon, would you?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Chasseur, That's the one.....for the nervous beginner (!) the tip is to definately use the entire width of the slope, and to veer right towards the very bottom. For anyone else, the tip is to drop off left before the restaurant, dip under the barriers, and use the race piste 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Guvnor, I'm sure the race piste was open to all-comers when I was there
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| Guvnor wrote: |
| Chasseur, That's the one.....for the nervous beginner (!) the tip is to definately use the entire width of the slope, and to veer right towards the very bottom. For anyone else, the tip is to drop off left before the restaurant, dip under the barriers, and use the race piste |
Thanks - my how people seemed to lose their nerve, having handled the track with the steep drop to the left, begun to relax, reminding themselves that they were on a green run and then contending with the ice! You could almost smell the fear!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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My sister "Is this run a red run cos I can't do red runs"
Me "Don't worry it's a blue"
Sis "OK then, I'll be able to ski it then".
A short while later down the 'blue' run
Sis "Why are the poles red if this is a blue run?"
Me "Cos we're in Austria, it's their national colour. You're skiing it fine so it can't be a red run can it?"
Sis "OK, I'm alright as long as it's blue"
Later that evening in the bar
Sis "Where's that long blue run we did, I can't see it on the piste map, only a red run"
Me "Err, it was that red run"
Sis "But I can't do red runs"
Me "So you keep saying"
Sis now skis red runs quite happily
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halfhand, it's cool don't worry, its the internets 
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| FenlandSkier wrote: |
Sis "Why are the poles red if this is a blue run?"
Me "Cos we're in Austria, it's their national colour. |
Brilliant.
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FenlandSkier, nice one.
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