 Poster: A snowHead
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 There’s a new concept in ski clothes on its way – insulation with a noble gas – which will let you regulate how hot or cold you are on the ski slope. Called the Klymit insulation system, it works in a similar to argon gas-filled double glazing. An airtight bladder made of commercially available waterproof-breathable membranes is sewn into the ski jacket or trousers. Then a tiny cartridge is connected to a valve and the bladder's baffles are inflated with a noble gas such as argon, krypton or xenon. The resulting free space acts as an insulating barrier between the outside air and the body, providing warmth and comfort. Noble gases are apparently about five times more efficient at insulating than currently available fabrics. ...So, when you’re out skiing and getting too warm, you’ll be able to open the valve to release some of the gas. And, when you’re getting too cold, you’ll be able to refill your clothes with gas from a lipstick-sized ‘Hotshot’ canister. This should provide 7-10 refills for jackets or trousers. What’s more, sweat is still passed to the outside in the same way as current waterproof-breathable clothing.
The manufacturer says that puncture resistant membranes and heat-welded seams will eliminate the chance of gas leakage, but each item will nonetheless be sold with a patch kit for emergencies. They anticipate that the first garments using Klymit technology will hit ski shops in time for the 2009-10 ski and snowboard season.
See: http://www.klymit.com/
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So much easier than taking off or putting on a layer  Can't remember the last time I got too hot or too cold. I'm out.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I can imagine the fun to be had in getting that past airport security.
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And, when you’re getting too cold, you’ll be able to refill your clothes with gas from a lipstick-sized ‘Hotshot’ canister
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Brings a whole new meaning to filling your pants.
If you overfill and take your jacket off, will it float away? Health & safety issue there.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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Nike ACG had a jacket that you could inflate by blowing into it. Pretty much the same principle and cheaper than buying cannisters.
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My ski pants are frequently gas filled already. Very warming it is too.
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Shallimus, I look forward to explaining that to The Department of Homeland Security on my next trip over the pond
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This has been done before, not so long back there was a blow up jacket that used air, not so noble but readily available.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I wonder if the noble gas thing is a marketting ploy - I bet ordinary compressed air would do nearly as good a job
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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not so long back there was a blow up jacket that used air
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Yes, I tried one on, 3 years ago I think - Degré 7 IIRC. It wasn't very comfortable - or not the right shape for me, anyway. I did think it was quite a good idea but it didn't seem to catch on.
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Megamum, I think you are correct.
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You know it makes sense.
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Megamum, try selling that to the diver's dry suit inflation people.
http://www.decompression.org/maiken/Why_Argon.htm
What is weakly explained in the OP if at all is how the whole "gas tight but water wicking" behaviour is achieved.
The material benefits of argon may be completely swamped by cr@p engineering of that little feature.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| If you overfill and take your jacket off, will it float away? |
No, because they only mention the heavier noble gases. But inflate with enough neon or (especially) helium, and it would.
Sounds like a daft idea to me.
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Poster: A snowHead
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You could relax in a radon bath for a very short period.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Sounds to me like these are likely to cost an absolute fortune, you'll have trouble with airport security (they love all our other ski gear, this will be something else they can ban as it may kill and innocent child with its sinister unreactive gas, or some such excuse). Personally I'm a fan of the "to hot? undo your coat. to cold? keep a jumper in your bag just in case" method:-)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Bode Swiller wrote: |
| If you overfill and take your jacket off, will it float away? |
No, because they only mention the heavier noble gases. But inflate with enough neon or (especially) helium, and it would.
Sounds like a daft idea to me. |
Inflate with helium? Daft idea? What, when you could entertain your chair lift companions to endless renditions of "Yellow Submarine" in Pinky and Perky stylie.....
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