 Poster: A snowHead
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I bought a set of Saloman X wave 8's about 6 years ago and to be fair they are generally pretty comfy. I had molded footbeds made and went through all the process of having the liners heated and then my feet in the boots with toe caps on whilst the liner cooled etc and apart from when i overtighten them they have never caused me any paid at all. Unfortunately i only get to ski 6 days or so a year so they're unlikely to be worn out.
However, i went on honeymoon last year with my wife to whistler and found myself skiing in conditions very different from the usual french groomers. There was a lot more loose powder on the pistes and i found that it felt like my foot was moving slightly in my boot. The boots have always felt fairly roomy and hence i have to do them up fairly tight and getting the balance between tight and too tight and getting pins and needles is a fine balance.
I'm not sure if this is paranoia and the problems were more down to my technique (or lack of) than my boots, but is there a simple way of checking to see if the shell is the right size for my foot?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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shell check without liner in -get wife to look down back of boot with a torch while you stand with toes brushing the front of shell. How much space is there in cm- an expert will be able to tell you what it means - something like 1-1.5cm snug 2-2,5 comfort >2.5 loose
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simple...take the liner out the boot and put your foot into the empty shell, have your toes gently brushing the front of the shell ..how much space is there behind your heel?
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Have you thought about taking the liner out, standing in the shell with your toes brushing the front of the boot and seeing how much room there is at the heel?
Just a thought.
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lower, I seem to remember reading on here that Salomon liners tend to pack down fairly quickly; maybe you just need a new liner.
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richmond, the looser the initial fit, the faster the liner packs out. 36 days is about what I'd expect in a 2cm fit.
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At the end of the day if you feel your feet are moving in your boots and affecting the speed that your skis are reacting to your foot movements then the boots may have become too roomy. I noticed the same thing last year having skied on my Salomans for about 6 years too.
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Did a shell check this afternoon. Its quite difficult to tell because the heel pocket looks quite big, but on my smaller foot i'd say there's 20-25mm of space behind my heel.
The movement i feel tends to be a bit of side to side movement in my foot and some heel lift. The heel lift is only really noticeable when i'm skiing in conditions that i'm not used to and why weight is getting thrown around a bit, hence my comments about whether its my technique at fault rather the boot.
What do the experts think? Am i being paranoid and the boots are fine, can the liners be padded to make them a tighter fit, or should i be looking at new boots.
Just for perspective, i'm your usual reasonably competant 1 week per year skier who's skied since he was 10 and likes to think he's a better skier than he actually is. I'll ski any marked run on the mountain but find the harder blacks challenging.
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| Did a shell check this afternoon.....I'd say there's 20-25mm of space behind my heel.... |
That's a bit big for a recreational fit but I'm sure that CEM could work his magic to take up some slack & reduce your heel lift. For a performance fit it's new boots time.
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spyderjon, That's an interesting comment - I'd assumed that, short of a thicker liner, it would be very difficult to reduce the size of a tooo large boot. Is it done with packing, or can the shell be physically reduced in size?
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Megamum, I had the ankle area of my liners packed out with additional foam sheet to narrow the fit.
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You know it makes sense.
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All the liners i've seen that have been packed out had random bit of foam loosely glued on that didn't look like a permanent solution.
I'm sure there's a better way of doing it. What do proper boot fitters use to pack the liner that does allow you to actually remove the liner for drying?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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lower, The sheets I had stuck on have stayed put though many liner removals. Next time though I may go for the custom liner.
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