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New Lifts in Austria- Ski -amade area

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Hi,

Last week went up 5 different gondolas in the area and took some pictures of the new lifts in the area. There was a new chair built in Leogang but I didn't take any pictures of it.

Up at Bad Gastein there are building a new 8 -seat gondola at Stubnerkogel. First time I have been there- very open space with no trees.

Station at top :-



No wire on yet- will have to get a move on. there could be snow up there by October.



Looking down the slope:-




Looking down to Bad Hofgastein:-



Now the one I am really looking forward to the new 8-seat gondola in Muehlbach!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing It has replaced 3 drags and will make a large area available by using 2 gondolas and 3 chairs. And 2 new pistes aswell plus new snow boarding park. These were taken at he end of August so they will need to get a move on- it will be snowing up there soon!!

The new gondolas:-



Bottom station:-



One of the new piste:-




This is one of the lifts it replaced and the trees to the right is one of the new pistes.



This is where the new top station is:-



Replacing this drag so connecting to the chair from Dienten.



If anybody is out this way this season we wold love to meet up and have a ski. we had a few days skiing with sone snowheads last year which was really good.

Nigel
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Nigel, a fantastic report, thank you very much. Tomorrow I meet the representatives of Hochkonig Tourist Board, I am sure they will be happy to hear this interest.
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djfletcher, Nice pics of the lift in Bad Hofgastein!! Was there at end of July and saw them building it then, looks like they have progressed quite a bit!!
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kerekip wrote:
Nigel, a fantastic report, thank you very much. Tomorrow I meet the representatives of Hochkonig Tourist Board, I am sure they will be happy to hear this interest.


Hi,

I'm intrigued !! Why are you meeting them?
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djfletcher wrote:
I'm intrigued !! Why are you meeting them?

Before the season Ski amadé has a presentation in Budapest every year. This year Hochkonig is 'the special guest'.
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djfletcher, the other half and I will no doubt be over for a few days in January at some point so we'll give you a shout and see if we can hook up again for another day (or two) on the snow.

Good to see the continued investment in the Amade region.

See you soon(ish) all being well snowHead !

D
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No reason why you should know this, but maybe.

I seem to recall that a new black run is supposed to be put in with that gondola. I'd heard it had been put off until next summer, though, for one reason or another. Do you have any knowledge of this?

I just ask because I'll be there over Christmas.
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ami in berlin wrote:
No reason why you should know this, but maybe.

I seem to recall that a new black run is supposed to be put in with that gondola. I'd heard it had been put off until next summer, though, for one reason or another. Do you have any knowledge of this?

I just ask because I'll be there over Christmas.


In Muehlbach?? No according to the new piste map all blues!!

Or in Gastein according to the new piste map all red apart from the black from the bottem of the chair.
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Sorry. I Forgot to clarify. Bad Gastein.

They mention the new run on the website, but I'd heard a rumor that they would not complete it this summer. Just wondering what the truth is.
http://en.winter.skigastein.com/News/Winter_2008/senderbahn.htm
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djfletcher, hi, me and Mrs Seany will be in Maria Alm over the New Year and are hoping to get over to Muelbach, I've heard lots of good things about the place! Do you know if there are any plans to put in a lift from Hintermoos to Gabühel?That would link the whole area, getting the bus to Hinterthal is a real pain!
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Seany wrote:
djfletcher, hi, me and Mrs Seany will be in Maria Alm over the New Year and are hoping to get over to Muelbach, I've heard lots of good things about the place! Do you know if there are any plans to put in a lift from Hintermoos to Gabühel?That would link the whole area, getting the bus to Hinterthal is a real pain!


Hi,

Yes we have heard that rumour since we moved here 3 years ago - Also the long drag in Dienten needs replacing as well. Yes this is a good area to ski especially our side - better snow and less busy but I would say that Smile Smile . Maybe next year come and stay here Laughing . But if you do come this way give us a call and maybe we could meet up for a ski.

Nigel
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Cheers Nigel, we've got an apartment in Maria Alm (it's quite nice at our end of the valley too Smile ) so meeting for a ski at some point over the winter would be good. I've bookmarked your site, some great photos on there!
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Nigel, some nice pics of the new Senderbahn up the Stubnerkogel! I've not been out there this summer so i've just heard about it. I think they've got the cables in now, at least at the bottom. Here's a link to the webcam of the bottom station:

http://www.gasteinertal.com/webcam/senderbahn.html


ami in berlin wrote:
Sorry. I Forgot to clarify. Bad Gastein.

They mention the new run on the website, but I'd heard a rumor that they would not complete it this summer. Just wondering what the truth is.
http://en.winter.skigastein.com/News/Winter_2008/senderbahn.htm


Ami, I think the new run is the red, the black's been there a season.

The new black they talk about on the Ski Gastein site is the black that comes down into Angertal from Schlossalm (above Bad Hofgastein)(I think). That was put in before last season. I don't think there are any plans for a new black off the Stubnerkogel.

Cheers
Kersh
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Thanks Kersh. I had read about the run not being ready on a German forum, so I probably lost something in (my poor) translation.
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i vaugely recall a rumour of obertauern being linked to undertauern or even all the way down to radstat.. was there ever any truth in that?
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ami in berlin, i've had another root about on the internet and i've seen there are plans to make a new blue from the new Senderbahn middle station back to Angertal. I'm not sure if they're doing this though. I'll ask some of the locals I know and see if they know anything.

Cheers
Kersh
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CANV CANVINGTON, If linked with the nearest resort of Zauchensee it would give links to Flachauwinkle and Kleinarl - Pretty spectacular.
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Thanks Kersh. I went back and looked up what zee Germans had said:

"die schwarze abfahrt an der kaserebenbahn kommt erst zur saison 09/10, das geht sich dieses jahr nicht mehr aus"
That sounds like the run you referenced coming off Schlossalm into Angertal. But if it was put in before last season, it could not also be put off until 09/10.

Another post seems to mention that the blue run you mention will also not be ready for this winter.

The discussion is here:
http://www.alpinforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5866&start=175

Whatever. I will go at Christmas and I will like what is there.
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Fr0sty the Sn0wman, yup. going down towards radstat could be spectacular.. think i'd want to get the bus back up rather than a series of long chairs n short runs tho.. !
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This maybe slightly lowering the tone a little but I couldn't help but laugh!

I was rooting round the gastein website and came across this shot of Angertal on the webcam. You can see the new Senderbahn on the right and the Angertal Ski Centre on the left. Looks like they may also be clearing a piste under the chair in the middle.

Then I looked at the cow bottom right .... good old webcams! Laughing Laughing Laughing



Sorry it made me laugh!
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Am i right in saying the above picture is the bad gastein/hofgastein change point where you can get a lift up over to hofgastein of bad gastein??

If they linked obertauren up would it not then mean they would need to be on the ski amade lift pass as if my memory serves me rightly it isn't currently covered!

Have been to wagrain and bad gastein in the amade region and think its a wonderful area!
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swskier wrote:
Am i right in saying the above picture is the bad gastein/hofgastein change point where you can get a lift up over to hofgastein of bad gastein??


Yep, that's right. They've really improved the connextions between hofgastein and bad gastein over the last few years, the new Senderbahn is the latests phase. To get from Bad Gastein to Hofgastein (without taking the bus), you go through Angertal. It's a really nice spot in the winter and summer. snowHead


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djfletcher, excellent report
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djfletcher, Thanks for your efforts, great stuff. Austria certainly seems to have the most modern lift system in the World.
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Ha, thanks. I'll make a note to avoid skiing over that particular patch if the snow is thin!
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Fr0sty the Sn0wman wrote:
Austria certainly seems to have the most modern lift system in the World.

Absolutely agree.
Today I had a chance to talk to the managing director of Ski amadé in Budapest. He told me that there would be 4 new lifts (2 chairlifts and 2 cabins) in the regions. This year they are spending 71m euros on improvements. They have to invest this huge amount of money because there is a strong competition among the Austrian resorts. Now, 80% of the whole Ski amadé area (800km) can be covered with artificial snow.
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Kersh, great webcam shot, that is why grass skiing in Austria is never to be undertaken lightly....
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djfletcher,

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If anybody is out this way this season we wold love to meet up and have a ski. we had a few days skiing with sone snowheads last year which was really good.


I'm going to be in Radstadt for a week before Christmas. How far is that from you Puzzled
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HI Rich,

We are about 35mins by road, and about 50 mins by bus/railway.
Do you have a car? The ski pass does cover here as well so if you do fancy a trip it would be lovely to meet up with you and ski.

Nigel
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djfletcher,

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We are about 35mins by road, and about 50 mins by bus/railway.
Do you have a car?


I won't have a car but should be able to get across if the public transport is ok.
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rich.ll, maybe we should take a trip over to djfletcher, I havent skiied his neck of the woods yet. Very Happy
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Gosh, this thread brings back happy memories. Somehow taking away the drag lifts takes away some of the charm - especially with the new lift stations being so obtrusive. But I suspect I am in a minority of one in thinking that.
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I vaugely recall a rumour of obertauern being linked to undertauern or even all the way down to radstat.. was there ever any truth in that?


Sadly no...

Obertauern is bloody miles away from Radstadt, plus the terrain down to Untertauern is far to craggy for any decent kind of runs.

There have been dreams of linking Obertauern to Flachau Winkl but it is just too far and too costly to bother doing.

Obertauern is also not part of the Ski Alliance Amade so they have there own passes and seperate prices. However, you can purchase a Salzburger Super Pass; this takes you as far as Obertauern plus Saaaaaaaaalbach plus all of Amade.

Eben is in the process of replacing all of their drags plus the small 2 man chair. This should speed up that little area nicely.

Radstadt has had some work done (but no new lifts I'm afraid).

The North facing blue has been evened out along the middle. They have also put a new piste in (which is much wider) half way down this slope towards Altenmarkt. I hope they are also keeping the original turning open as it would be a shame to close that off.

Anyhow, i am sure that any morning now the morning mist will clear and there will be lots of white stuff up there! Laughing
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rich.ll, maybe we should take a trip over to djfletcher, I havent skiied his neck of the woods yet.


Sounds good to me.
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djfletcher, Would you PM me your contact details if you're still on for a possible meet up next week.
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