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Looking for a quiet family resort and we came across this place and wondered if anyone had any feedback on it?
Dave
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hi Dave - if you use the forum search facility and type in 'Le Grand Bornand' and then click on 'search for all terms' and then 'search' at the bottom - about half way down the page is a post from highland rob called 'Le grand bornand resort report feedback thread' . If you go into this there is a very comprehensive resort report from 'Annie' that you can access from Hoppos first post on the page. We have bought an MGM Apartment in the new development at Chinaillon and are really excited about going there for the first time this winter so from that you will probably gather that we are very much in favour of this French Gem! We are passing through this summer too as it's a great all year round destination. Hope this helps - Loatie
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I've been a couple of times in a group of about 8ish. There was pleanty to keep us occupied for a week. It was quiet, and very french (it may be a bit of a struggle to find english-oriented ski classes for the kids, but it wasn't something that we looked into.) There was a nice beginers area with a magic carpet - we were particularly jealous of that having had our lessons on arm-dislocating drag ropes the previous year.
We were actually at the top of the valley in Chinallon, and I could recommend Reves d'hiver (http://www.revesdhiver.fr/index.php?lang=english) for ski hire - they are right at the bottom of one of the main lifts, and have free heated boot-room for gear. Which saves you from having to traipse through town in your boots.
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Thanks Loatie and Rob - my ability to use the search facility had deserted me by ten o-clock last night.......
It looks like a good option for us (two families of four with kids from 4 to 8 years) - Trying to decide between Flaine and Grand Bornand/Chinaillon now. Looks like better value for money and more character in LGB.....
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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MazDave, yes, it probably is. But the point about English speaking lessons is a good one - we have an apartment in a small French resort (Les Saisies) and there are no group lessons in English, though there are some instructors who speak enough English for private lessons. Actually, you could look at Les Saisies too - it's an excellent family resort, and with a lot more piste mileage than LGB. A bit further to drive from Geneva.
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MazDave, If you haven't found it yet, this is the resort report I wrote after our visit there is here. There are plenty of English speaking instructors and if, as I suspect from another thread, you're going in school hols there will almost certainly be english group lessons. ESI (Starski) were very helpful in putting together a variety of group and private lessons that suited all of us.
Resort Le Grand Bornand ( Le Chinaillon)
Country France
Domaine Aravis - La Clusaz/Le Grand Bornand
Author Annie
Dates 25th Feb - 3rd March 07
Our holiday
A motley collection of a dozen mixed ability skiers with 3 kids thrown into the pot.
Website www.legrandbornand.com
Basics 45 mins - 1hr or so from Geneva airport or a dead easy drive from the channel ports. Some of the party flew and we, living in Kent, drove. Stopped overnight in Annecy and had dinner in the Brasserie hotel du ville - flashy neon outside lighting just off the lake, delicious food (a mean creme brulee!) and all the staff dressed up in a venetian theme. I know it doesn't sound very tasteful but it was - honest! You have the option either to take the Annecy route and then through Thones or down the A40 to Bonneville and up the D12. The latter is the more dramatic and scenic route - but the former is without question less perilous on the nerves!
When you get there you have around 90km of local pistes from 1300 - 2100 and a further 110km if you venture over to La Clusaz
Lift sytem A mix of chairs and drags with a gondola down to Le Grand Bornand. Nothing stood out as being either particularly bad or good. There were however virtually no queues anywhere....and this was the first week of the Northern French school hols.
The Terrain A good combination of long, short, treelined, narrow, wide. Some 'interesting' piste gradings - a lot of the greens are bluish and a lot of the blues are decidedly purple. Reds generally though were red or even bluish. Although our absolute beginners more than survived I'd pitch the terrain at 2nd weeker plus to get the most out of it - It suffers from pistes that require some very big leaps in progression and it's not easy for a beginner to get from one side of the resort to the other. La Douche a definite red (though marked as blue) over the other side of the mountain was good fun and had a cracking chocolate stop at the end. Never made it over to La Clusaz ( well not strictly true, a couple did but they went Saturday morning on the bus and hit the tail end of a 3km changeover day tailback, so looked at it rather than skied it!) - Chinaillon had plenty to keep us entertained.
The snow Well, being 2007 and having had intermittent rain and +8 temperatures all week, it could have been better. That said there was snow right down to the village which is more than can be said for Le Grand Bornand itself. Porridge, wallpaper paste and treacle were some of our favourite similes but nonetheless 99% open all week and perfectly skiable.
Off piste With avalanche risks of 4 most of the week and 5 on 2 days not even the normally crazy amongst the party were tempted to even go looking....and while it's not my bag I'm not sure there would have been much to find in the current conditions!
The resort Without question the prettiest, friendliest least busy little resort that I've ever had the pleasure to visit. It's described as a 'ski station' but is a proper little village with soul and a big heart. Enough bars and small restaurants - The Green Monkey is extra friendly and does a great tarte a la tartiflette if you want the taste but can't manage the whole fat and calorie laden affair. Probably not enough for the die hard party animals but if relaxed apres in really beautiful chocolate box, twinkly lit surroundings staffed by people that really seem to want you there is your thing you'll love it here. A mention here for reves d'hiver ski hire at the bottom of chatelet lift. Prompt and professional, no argument about the shoulder/chin height skis for beginners, free ski storage, easy exchange and when we came to pay asked us how many days we'd skied and only charged for that number. ( so 1 of the party that had the skis for 7 days only paid for 4)
The food Well I self catered for the 12 of us so of course the food was flipping marvellous! For lunchtime, in addition to the Green Monkey, The Solaret ( Starski hangout) just above the main chatelet chair deserves a mention - both salade paysanne and tartiflette were very good and the restaurant at the bottom of the Terre rouge was nice. I'd give Le Neve (?) a miss ( bottom of violettes) cold, the only miserable resort worker we met and the food was poor.
Accommodation We stayed in Les Refuges des Outalays apartments via www.grandbornand.com. Best self catering accommodation I've stayed in by a country mile with a terrifically practical and well equipped kitchen down to food mixers the lot! The ski in ski out description stretches the definition a little but not by much. Only downside was it was a little remote from the village which was a pain as the last bus was 7pm. On a similar theme, if you missed the last lift the ski bus only takes you to the bottom of what is a not insignificant hill kitted out in the whole ski regalia with your planks over your shoulder. All perfectly work aroundable though.
Costs Flights, transfers, accom, ski school, local pass, ski hire, mainy self catered food around £500 - £550 per person
Conclusion I really loved it here. Absolute beginners may find it a bit challenging and probably not the place for high mileage party animals but if pretty, friendly and traditionally French does it for you I'd recommend sticking it on your list of places to try
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That pretty much sums up my experience of the resort too (although much more eloquently.) Same ski hire, same chalet company (we were in Chalet Zouche) same interesting piste gradings. We probably had a bit better snow.
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We went 2 years ago and had no problems getting English speaking ski school.
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Thanks to all - we're booked 
Went for an appartment called Le Moulin in Chinaillon - booked it through the Grand Bornand Reservation office.
Only 28 weeks to go........
Dave
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