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New French traffic law fro 01 July 2008

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From 1 July 2008 it will also be obligatory to carry in all vehicles a warning triangle and reflective jacket for use in case of a breakdown. Anyone found to not be complying with this requirement could be subject to a fine of 90 euros.


http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travelling-and-living-overseas/travel-advice-by-country/europe/france?ta=safetySecurity&pg=2
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boredsurfin, ... Well spotted ... although your link is a general one to travel to France ... Is there specific detail to this - I always carry a reflective bib - does this qualify under the Act .... Puzzled ... because they always try to trick me ... Laughing and I don't want to upset them ..... Toofy Grin
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boredsurfin, thanks for the info. Wonder if the rental companies at Geneva will include a warning triangle and hi-vis vest as standard kit?
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This is just one of many fantastic free gifts which you can claim by cashing in thousands of your Marche U loyalty points. Pity they're out of stock. Laughing
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I thought a warning triangle had been compulsory for some time?
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I thought a warning triangle had been compulsory for some time?
so did I. HI-vis vest is in the car anyway, as we sometimes go to Turin,or even just to Claviere and they are already compulsory in Italy.
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rob@rar wrote:
boredsurfin, thanks for the info. Wonder if the rental companies at Geneva will include a warning triangle and hi-vis vest as standard kit?


Have always had a warning triangle in the car when we've hired.
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Helen Beaumont wrote:
rob@rar wrote:
boredsurfin, thanks for the info. Wonder if the rental companies at Geneva will include a warning triangle and hi-vis vest as standard kit?


Have always had a warning triangle in the car when we've hired.


Mostly the same for me, but not always. Never had a hi-vis vest, although these could be purchased at the rental desk.
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I thought that the hi-vis vest had been compulsory for a while too. There were posters up on the autoroutes at the beginning of last season telling you to carry them.
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I think in France they were advisable (as they are here) but not compulsory - in Spain apparently it's compulsory to have one for every occupant of the car. I read it on Snowheads, so it must be true. snowHead
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Travelling across Europe I think you need to have/do for various countries; triangles, spare bulb set, beam deflector, high vis jackets, snow chains, winter tyres, spare driving glasses, remove radar detectors, remove GPS with Speed Camera capability, various license restrictions, etc etc. Shocked
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boredsurfin, ... Well spotted ... although your link is a general one to travel to France ... Is there specific detail to this - I always carry a reflective bib

Sorry the FO website isn't very friendly, if you scroll down several times the detail is under the heading of Road Travel. Smile
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Can someone please tell the idiots at Dover ferry port not to keep putting leaflets on my German registered car telling me what I need to buy for driving on the continent!!!

After getting caught out in Austria in January when main headlight blew up, I definitely recommend spare set of bulbs *and* enough tools to be able to change them! Lost half a morning ski time on Sunday trying to find a friendly garage that had a screwdriver, to get the bulb out, to find which type it was, and then go find one in store room (was not in the packs in shop).

Would be handy if all EU (and Switzerland etc.) made the compulsory accessories consistent across all territories. In any case, I usually have most bits mainly cos I drive thru numerous countries, but I have no clue as to what is compulsory where (other than jacket in Italy/Austria, triangle in Germany, driving/headlights in Austria).
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remove GPS with Speed Camera capability,

Does anyone know if this is urban myth or truth from a reputable source? I have seen this widely quoted before but equally I have seen a 'quote' from some French Official that it is not true and offical radar zones are marked on maps anyway.
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boredsurfin, .... found it .. ! Merci .... Very Happy
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T Bar, It is in Switzerland, there was a long thread on it last year.
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Colin B,
Thanks, Missed it.
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The spare bulbs always makes me laugh - yes I carry them - but from past experience should the headlights fail a trip to VW dealer is required for them to remove half the engine to get at it!

I've got an AA map of France with camera locations printed in it - wonder whether that's legal?
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Your map is legal but the cunning folk in France move the cameras around!!
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boredsurfin, doesn't bother me as I don't speed

Seriously - in a VW Sharan with roofbox 80 is plenty fast enough
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Boris, well mines a Seat, which is presumably similar to VW, and it certainly requires screwdriver to remove lots of bits of plastic to access back of light housing, then snake like dexterity to access the bulb. Took me 3 lunchtimes at works and a surf on Seat Cupra forum to work out how to change indicator bulb. Fortunately the service station in Innsbruck had a willing repair guy on shift on a Sunday morning who helped me change the main headlamp bulb and supplied screwdrivers for free.

See your point though. Law may state you need to carry spare bulbs, but it's pointless if you don't also carry the necessary tools, and know how to change them!
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I'm wondering if the requirement is for one reflective vest to be in the car or if there should be enough all possible occupants of the car.
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Austria

Dont forget every passenger travelling in a car must have a reflective jacket & must be put on before you exit the car.
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stanton, thanks but I'm thinking France here Smile . Also IIRC somewhere requires one for each possible passenger (in my case 5) rather than just 2 for the passengers the car would actually have.
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peura, I can't find a link at the mo but it is one vest per vehicle, The AA say on thier website that they are waiting for clarification.
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I understand that radar detector things are illegal in France and entitle the police to confiscate your car - especially if they get any old lip.
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T Bar wrote:
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remove GPS with Speed Camera capability,

Does anyone know if this is urban myth or truth from a reputable source? I have seen this widely quoted before but equally I have seen a 'quote' from some French Official that it is not true and offical radar zones are marked on maps anyway.


In France, Avertisseur are legal, Detecteur are not. So, Tom Tom's etc with camera locations from a database are lawful. Radar detectors like Road Angel which detect police roadside radar traps by picking up the signal are illegal. In the car I carry a French language translation (with pictures) of the different types and which quotes the law* (for France). The legislation in Switzerland is different.
*Unless the law has changed this year.
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boredsurfin, cheers. Personally I'm not too concerned since I now store 5 in the car (just in case Little Angel ) but I thought it good to clarify what the French law has changed to.
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When I checked radar detectors were illegal in France but gps with camera locations were not in the same way you can download routes from Michelin that show fixed camera locations.
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