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European resorts "desperate for Christmas snow"

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It'll come as no surprise for regular visitors to this site, but the prospects for Christmas snow across the Alps are looking increasingly dicey. Peter Hardy reports for the Daily Telegraph on the current picture, with a resort-by-resort snow report.
As he says, northern Italy is fairing better than other countries, with some resorts in Austria doing reasonably well, but oddly there's no mention of Spain (which snow-forecast.com recently tipped)...

Here's the Telegraph report.

Also check the snowHeads Snow Reports threads for first-hand reports and other info.
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The conditions in Isola 2000 look excellent at the moment with over 50% of the ski area open.

A cold front should cross over the Northern Alps from the north-west just before the weekend The mountains will at least look much more wintry all over and that piste conditions will be a lot better for the run-up to Christmas. Let's say 50cm in the Aravis, 40cm in the Mont Blanc area and 30cm in the Three Valleys and Tarentaise. More would be nice.
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A giant ridge of high pressure has been parked over Europe for a while, thus no snow. Looks like by Friday the 17th a change in the pattern with the ridge sliding east into Russia and the upper level flow becoming more northwesterly over Europe.
Keep your fingers crossed.
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And it will come as no surprise for regular visitors to this site to find me wading in with my usual "Told you so!"
Would anyone go skiing in December if Christmas was in January? So let's move Christmas.
Then we should move Easter to May-Day, and the ski season would actually match conditions, running from January to May.
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Jonpim, will you keep it down? SSHHH!! wink ...January skiing is great - plenty of snow (usually), low prices and few people...
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Jonpim, with you all the way!
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In the 8:30 forecast on Radio 4's Today programme this morning, the weather chappie commented on a mass of cold air about to descend on central Europe from Siberia. He claimed that "there'll be some huge dumps of snow in the Alps over the next week or so."

I'd only just turned the radio on, so I don't know why he was talking about skiing. Was there a feature on the snow drought or something? Did anyone else hear?
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I didn't hear but nothing leaps out from the runnng order on the web :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/
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The weatherman said something similar on R5 this morning, following on from an item on Scottish skiing (or lack of it)...
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DavidS,

That makes sense - it must have been Radio 5, not 4, that I was listening to.
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Yes, I heard it too as I was driving to work on R5. You can it see the pattern on

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/europe/pressure.shtml

Looks hopeful!
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Chris Bish, great site - thanks for that. And my fingers and much else are crossed for early season snowHeads.
Checked out the Middle East and Baghdad will be below zero and Kuwait max 6 C next Friday. That's cold for here, believe me. snowHead too snowHead too snowHead too
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I like this site that someone else reference recently. 70cm by the weekend. I sure that is (over)optimistic and it may well not actually happen of course, but it has cheered me up. http://metcheck.com/snow/skiResort.asp?ResortID=72&Country=Switzerland&Resort=Villars&PROMO=
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Iv'e looked at these maps, digested the information, and have one question....."IS IT GOING TO BLOODY SNOW"
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This chart shows the projected rainfall (from the GFS model) for Geneva for the next week (Geneva was the nearest I could find to the French resorts) . The rainfall is shown in mm on the bottom of the chart. Light blue means snows in the mountains, dark blue means snow even at lower levels. For a reasonable rule of thumb, call the mm cm and you get snow depth (I think - I used to know a good conversion that was something like that, but would need to check). This would suggest 40cm over the weekend, but I would caveat that with the fact (a) my conversion may be wrong and (b) 6 days is still a reasonably long time ahead to forecast, (c) any commercial (etc.) forecast you'd normally see based on this would have had experienced forecaster modification (this will be the "raw" output), so may change it a bit (especially to take in local factors) and (d) it's for Geneva, not the mountains.
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Metcheck is now giving a metre plus for Flaine and Avoriaz over the weekend... oh yes, pleeeeeeeeze... Hmm, probably means everything will be shut 'cos of avalanches now! Shocked Evil or Very Mad Sad Blush Sad Blush Puzzled
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