 Poster: A snowHead
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Whilst on the recent holiday it was necessary to seriously use a pair of goggles and my contact lenses for the first time in earnest. Out of preference I ski in sunglasses on blue sky days, but in the misty, skiing inside a cloud conditions they steam up due to the single lense and probably aren't as good in flat light (which I now recognise for what it is) as my yellow goggles.
This is not a thread about helmets, but often an argument for not wearing a helmet is given as a possible loss of hearing sensation - a form of sensory deprevation.
I was surprised on putting on the goggles how much sensory deprevation these caused. Although I know dearer ones would be better in the department mine caused a considerable loss of periferal vision to the sides - I could only see forwards, like a horse in blinkers. I could also not easily look at the tips of my skis and the snow just in front of me as I normally do - one of my big faults - as it required me to move my whole head and therefore upset the balance.
However, for all their deficiets wearing them made me a better skier - I stopped relying on seeing my ski tips and just felt the skis under my feet and ultimately learned to trust them. I also started concentrating on where I was going rather than where I was now and the snow immediately under my feet. All this was, I think, very good for me and I just thought it interesting that sensory deprevation actually made me a better skier as it forced me to cure these inherent faults there and then.
Sorry, if these comments don't fit here, but they seemed to cross gear and BZK so I thought I would shove them here. Please feel free to discuss if you wish, I just found the whole experience quite interesting.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I have never been aware of loss of periphery vision wearing goggles. I guess there is some - but I have not noticed it. My first thought is that you could do with goggles that cause you less periphery vision loss. Meantime, if you have stopped staring at your skis, that is a good thing. They usually look pretty much as they did when you stepped into them.
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What I didn't like about losing the periphery vision is you couldn't see skiers and other snow users coming up by the side of you - including in this statement everone from friends you were skiing with, to other snow users scything close enough to take you out if you hadn't realised they were there - you were forced to ski in a straight line. I even caught myself looking over a shoulder as I would when riding a bicycle before making a turn.
In fact I was quite surprised my what I found I had the confidence to do, looking over my shoulder, checking my wristwatch under my glove cuff for the time - raising and lowering goggles, searching for friends on the slopes. I don't know who gave me injection, but I'm glad someone did - I suspect that the  collective were more than a little responsible - many thanks to you all
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I don't think my hearing is 100% to start with (my mum and aunts suffer from hereditary deafness), and I also feel a bit isolated in goggles. A recent bad experience in nil visibility has not helped. I no longer look at my skis though, unless it is to admire them when I take them off at lunchtime  However I agree that the sensory deprivation improves your skiing. If I wasn't perfect I wouldn't have got down that piste in one piece, visibility was non-existant, and we couldn't even locate any if the piste markers, never mind left and right.
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| Helen Beaumont wrote: |
| If I wasn't perfect |
Wish I was! Can you give me some tips? 
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Megamum, if you don't like losing your preipheral vision you may wish to get another pair of goggles - I have the Adidas Yodai and I've never noticed a loss of vision http://www.vision3k.com/brands/adidas-ski-goggles/yodai-a133.asp . I wear them all the time now & never wear my sunglasses skiing.
They're not cheap but you can get them cheaper from the States.
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I don't think I lose any more peripheral vision with goggles than with glasses/sunnies, so I think you should try a few other pairs on in a shop and compare them.
Your thread title made me think of something we were discussing related to the weather conditions. When it was pole-to-pole visibility only we both noticed that we had less fear about tackling a steeper section of a slope than when it was lovely and clear and we could stand at the top and allow our panic department to take in the full extent of what we were about to ski. That taught me a lesson about thinking too much - if I take it turn by turn and not worry about how long the steeper bit is, I CAN do it.
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I'm with the others -- get some new goggles and like cathy, I never now wear sunglasses ...
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I don't like wearing goggles, generally because the days that i would wear them I also need to wear my hood. The combination of the two make me claustrophobic. However I find that skiing in poor light condtions improves my skiing - not necessarily at the time, but you learn to feel your way down, which is then noticible in good light.
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These days, I prefer goggles, because my eyes have a tendency to water at speed, which does affect vision.
I've never been aware of reduced vision with goggles, except if they mist. I find keeping them on (e.g. in bubble lifts) helps with that. Persistently misting googles should be replaced with a new/better pair.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| laundryman wrote: |
These days, I prefer goggles, because my eyes have a tendency to water at speed, which does affect vision.
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Mine do too - only takes a breath of cold wind & I can be streaming.
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You know it makes sense.
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Having lost several contact lenses whilst skiing on the last day at VT I was really wishing I'd had my goggles with me that day!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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laundryman, yes I've finally realised that misting up is best avoided by just keeping them on, this also prevents getting snow inside them.
Megamum, for ultimate sensory deprivation stay in the Plein Sud till 7 then ski down in a white out 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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jonm, your eyes watered so much that your lenses kept falling out? Strewth! What kind of lenses do you wear? My eyes water, but I've never lost a lens! Maybe worth mentioning to your optician, they might be able to give you different ones for sport.
My helmet causes some reduction in hearing, enough that I can't use my phone, but will hear when someone yells that it's time for a drink stop. Goggles only in terrible weather, I've got decent ones but they do reduce peripheral vision. I'll try out some of those that apparently don't, but don't quite see how they don't - the frame gets in the way, surely? My p.v. is about 220 degrees, dropping to 200 in sunnies, but under 180 in goggles because of the frame and the curvature of the lens.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Helen Beaumont wrote: |
| I don't think my hearing is 100% to start with (my mum and aunts suffer from hereditary deafness), and I also feel a bit isolated in goggles. A recent bad experience in nil visibility has not helped. I no longer look at my skis though, unless it is to admire them when I take them off at lunchtime However I agree that the sensory deprivation improves your skiing. If I wasn't perfect I wouldn't have got down that piste in one piece, visibility was non-existant, and we couldn't even locate any if the piste markers, never mind left and right. |
I should have said that if I hadn't have concentrated on my technique being perfect.......... (lappy keyboard was screwed at the time)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I wear a full face helmet and do lose some periphiral vision and hearing but not enought to effect or worry me.
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I could also not easily look at the tips of my skis
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What are you looking for on the tips of you skis  If you are looking at you skis most of the time you are already placing a huge restriction on your field of vision? Get teh head up girl and relax
Second you need new googles two recomendations for you neither cheap but both have interchangable lenses and are greato
Oakly Wisdom I wear and adore them could be my fac piece of ski kit and most essential
Oakley Stockholm Very fashionable Mrs O got a pair this year all white and sparkly and she loves them said there was a new diffrence between them and the old Bole ones she had
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not something I'm used to on my 165s. 
