 Poster: A snowHead
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I read with interest many lively debates about insoles etc in ski boots and it makes me wonder... 
How many of you folks have splashed out on footbeds/whatever and found them beneficial and ...
Do you have them for your regular everyday life back on the concrete and clay?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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MarjMJ, I use them in my boots and find them very useful. I have flat feet which pronate (I don't know if you know the term, but it means that my feet roll in towards each other) - my orthotics make my feet go back to the correct position and support my insteps. I use off-the-shelf ones in ordinary life, because my feet don't suffer the same kind of strain. I even have them in my ballet shoes!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I find them crucial for skiing.
my everyday life doesn't involve clamping my feet into 2 solids bits of plastic for 7 hours a day, and wanting to transmit the slightest of movements through to 180cm planks of wood so I don't use them day to day!
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MarjMJ, considering the off-the-shelf ones are less than I would spend for a bottle of wine, and are scheduled to last ~89 days of hard use longer, I hardly consider that splashing out.
EDIT: of course, I don't use the same ones in running shoes.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I have footbeds (from Profeet) which, after some tweaking, provide a much more comfortable pair of boots in which I at least feel I ski better. If I remember correctly, they support my (pretty high) arches, preventing my feet from pushing down the boot, and help me to get my weight going through the right part of my foot (?). Without them, I have less control of the skis (or feel that I do) and the balls of my feet catch fire periodically. £120 well spent, in my view (no doubt cheaper in all sorts of other places, but there we are; there has to be some downside to living in London). I suspect that if I was fitter and more flexible I might not need them. I don't use them in walking boots or any other footwear (although I know people who move them between skiing and walking boots).
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I wear orthotics in my day to day shoes which were custom made for me by a podiatrist in Portsmouth for my very flat feet. It has been really difficult to find good ski boot orthotics that work well,but after quite a few failed attempts (including making my own) CEM managed to sort me out beautifully last year and I'm now a happy skier
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comprex, not sure if you (and/or) OP meant these off the shelf footbeds (which is what I have), if so then that's some mighty fine wine you're drinking !
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In my ski boots, golf shoes and everyday shoes but not my going out shoes.
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masmith, spookily, I was given a bottle of wine on Saturday which cost exactly the same as those footbeds. I'll let you know what it's like.
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masmith, wintergreen, and not really (didn't even make WS 90 pts)
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I use either orthaheel or superfeet footbeds in all my footwear. Using these enabled me to go from suffering extreme pain in my feet, and being hardly able to walk, to running a marathon in 3 years. While I can no run marathons due to back injury, I never wear anything on feet without proper support.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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RobinS, congratulations on running the marathon, 3 years is a bit slow though 
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masmith, With the state I'm in nowadays it would take that long!
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You know it makes sense.
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MarjMJ,
The footbeds I got in French ski resort about 4 years ago (cost 60 euros or so i think) really improved my skiing - much easier to get the skis to do what I wanted and no more numb toes. At home, I had been suffering similar numb toes in my walking boots so a while ago I transferred the footbeds to my walking boots and found them so much more comfortable. DOn't use them in ordinary shoes/boots - not sure I'd get them in some of my more girly shoes 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I over pronate slightly on my right foot which effectively lengthens the foot, not a problem in the shoes that I kick about in normally but my ski boots fit quite closely so I use off the shelf orthosis in them. I've also got them in my walking boots.
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Poster: A snowHead
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So far I'm managing without footbeds. 2 weeks of skiing in my boots now under my belt and not had the need for them yet.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| MarjMJ wrote: |
| concrete and clay |
...and general decay,
nature will still find a way....
Are you a Smiths fan Marj?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I see we have a few pronators here...what it is to have flat feet...lots of nice interesting comment here too. I must admit I just force my own orthotics into the boots and off you go. Agree with the comments about not wearing them in girly shoes - and am impressed Vetski can get them into ballet shoes!
Red 27 - more a 'beneath my feet begins to crumble...' concrete and clay reference - not sure who that was.
I am however wondering if we have populations of folks who only really get into the insole thing when they get to the ski boot dilemma, that's all. We struggle on in life with achy feet  because it is part of the aging process [speaking personally] and don't bother otherwise.
Well, am off to 3V tomorrow with my trusty FOs.
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| MarjMJ wrote: |
Red 27 - more a 'beneath my feet begins to crumble...' concrete and clay reference - not sure who that was. |
Unit 4+1, IIRC.
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MarjMJ, in my ballet shoes they're very soft, off the shelf from Boots - the kind I have in ski boots would not allow ze pointing of ze feet (which does tend to create ze crossness of ze teacher!)
I've always needed them, but no-one spotted it even when I complained of foot pain (give it up for having a GP for a parent...), which has created all sorts of other problems. Fortunately I have a very nice osteopath who deals with the after-effects! It's never even occurred to me that the NHS could help - might investigate that at some point.
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It's never even occurred to me that the NHS could help - might investigate that at some point.
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Yes - though you might wait. In my case I found a local private podiatrist who did not charge the earth and modified an off the shelf orthotic to suit me. The sky is of course the limit if one has gnarly feet.... I guess you have found out what I have been thinking in my head - we have niggles and ignore them until it starts interfering with a hideously expensive passtime! [Although I did get into a LOT of trouble when I chose the answer passtime instead of sport for the answer to the question asked of me 'Is skiing a sport or a passtime?' by the increasingly exasperated instructor trying to teach me, but that's another story for another thread].
Thanks!
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After a serious (non skiing) ankle break/dislocation it overpronates seriously. My footbeds stablise it & my ankle remains pain free until liberated from ski boots at the end of the day. Ideally I'd use them in all shoes, but as has been said before, girly shoes aren't ideal companions for footbeds, so I generally just put up with the aches & pains, though at home I am normally to be found barefoot and I make frequent use of a "wobble board" to further work on natural strength in it.
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