Poster: A snowHead
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Going to Verbier for last two weeks of March, thought we might have a side trip out to Chamonix, I haven't skied there yet.
What is the black down from the top of Grand Monets like, is it similar to sking the Verbier interniary down from Col de Gentianes to Tortin ??. It would good to know as we have a slight mixed group of skiers.
The other question is. if you are only going to spend the day in Chamonix where would you go?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Grand Montets would be my choice for a day trip. Its been a few years but I don't remember the run being tougher than the Verbier itinerary.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Grands Montets has my vote, although Brevent/Flegere is not far off as it is originally two resorts now linked by a cable car.
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Vallee Blanche - with a guide. Grand Montets if VB is closed.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Le Tour is the closest to Verbier, which you can access via Vallorcine. but GM is definitely the best ski-ing and best snow.
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Went to La Tour for a day trip from Verbier.
Very easy to do if you have a car. Park at Vallorine and get the gondola.
the skiing was dull though....flat, wide open, dull dull dull.
I am sure there is some decent off piste/trees but snow conditions were against that for that day, and in any case we went to meet up with some gaper friends who get nervous if you stary 6" off the marked piste.
Had a nice enough day, but wouldn't go back unless we hooked up with a local who knew where to find the good stuff.
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The driving distance from Verbier to Chamonix is about 37 miles. 25 miles of which is the mountain pass which takes about a hour driving leisurely. There are altogther about 10 hairpin bends so don't rush them.
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Does the mountain road (Col de la Forclaz?) close if there is heavy snowfall?
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halfhand, only if VERY heavy snow. I have never known it closed for more than a morning after a major dump.
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halfhand, yes it does, sometimes, so thunderer, would need to check before setting off (edit, it's true, rungsp, they normally clear it pretty fast)
I'd say VB (with a guide) if it looks good and is open, otherwise GM. I don't know Verbier but if conditions are good the black from the top is fine if you're generally happy wth big steep blacks.
If it's icy maybe send the stronger skiers up first to scout it out. Beware of the front though (La Face) as that can really be very nasty if it's hard.
If they don't fancy the top it's plenty big enough without it.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I would prefer the Grand Montets every time if you are looking for a consistently reasonably demanding skiing day.
The VB is a unique but generally very straightforward scenic trip. There are some steeper variations at the top but they do not last long. Furthermore by the time you get all the way down from the VB whether you ski down or take the train you are probably talking about at least half a day if not more depending on the ability of your group.
In the same time you could get several decent runs down the Grand Montets and if you hire a guide for the Grand Montets, although you do not have to if you stick to the pistes, there are a number of extra options available on the glacier.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Aslo if anyone is unsure of it then they don't have to go all the way to the top. They can have a coffee and meet you where the red run (Hotel) starts and go back to the bottom with you.
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thunderer,
The 'black' of the top of GM is a bit more that a usual black, IMV... it will be a bit steep and chopped up most likely as you head down towards to crevasses and ceracs... you can cut over and hug the ridge when you know where you a re supposed to go...!!
The whole point of the GM is that you chose any line you can handle....
When you go to get your pass...decide there and then if you want to take the top station supplement and if you are adventurous, you will want to do this...
Also, at this time, take a 'booking' on the top station CC as you may not be able to get on the CC ad hoc later, especially on a busy day...
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You know it makes sense.
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There's also a beautiful scenic railiway from Martigny to Chamonix, via Vallorcine, Argentiere etc, which is a nice travel option from Verbier.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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