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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| mountainaddict wrote: |
| I've just spotted over on Winterhighland that a skimming device was found on 4th Feb at the Royal bank of scotland |
The RBS have been skimming the British public for years.
Last edited by You need to Login to know who's really who. on Fri 8-02-13 0:27; edited 1 time in total
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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A high percentage of ATMs have devices on? Please tell more...
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Dirty Gibson,
Not all the time. Devices are normally placed on ATMs that get used late at night but not too busy an area.
It may only be on the ATM for 10 mins.
Most devices catch just one card, you put your card in, enter your pin but the card doesn't come back.
a small strip placed inside the card reader catches the card and the guy behind you has seen your pin or has a camera device . you leave and he retrieves the card. within 5 mins they have taken out your maximum withdrawl . The device gets put back on and next mug comes along
Do that 20 times an night and it's easy cash.
most ATMs have protection against electronic skimming devices now, so this is the main problem now.
Some ATMs such as Barclays with the blue card slot and some others make it harder to use these
If you use an ATM late at night and it nicks your card, look closely at the card slot, it may come away if you pull at it.
If not and still unsure, cancel your card without leaving the ATM. if it has taken it properly it will be cancelled anyway
Just look up lebanese loop on Google
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| mountainaddict wrote: |
| I've just spotted over on Winterhighland that a skimming device was found on 4th Feb at the Royal bank of scotland ATM in Aviemore |
It was probably installed by RBS. They also run a skimming device called a current account. It relies on people not checking their statements. Got Ulster Bank (owned by RBS) statement in last week. A £220.00 'annual maintenance charge' had been applied. Called them to query it and they refunded it without question, 'cos it was a computer error.' I wonder how many people didn't call to query it?
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Pity everybody is blasting the RBS - the BBC report says Bank of Scotland 
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its the Bank of Scotland accross the street from Tesco car park.
Considering the turnover of people through Aviemore I'm surprised it doesnt happen more often, I think this is only the second time I've heard of it (a much more regular occurrence is the ATMs running out of cash on busy weekends!!)
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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mountainaddict, I remember a few years ago at a Sainsburys ATM thinking "hm, something looks different" so I did ensure I covered the hand entering the pin. I wasnt paranoid enough to say something instore - but sure enough, a few days later, there was a story about it in the paper. I think most people would only notice something if it was a machine they used regularly.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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But then this is during the day, when the clever ones are at work
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good advice from neville. i worked for an ATM manufacturer (that dundee one, neville!) and being aware means i always check an ATM and always cover the keypad when entering my PIN. there are a number of ways of committing ATM fraud but they will require your PIN, so always cover up ladies and gents!
slightly more advanced than the lebanese loop is a mag-stripe reader attached to the card slot and this will require a small camera to be attached to the fascia as this more advanced method is designed to capture multiple card's details. manufacturers offer and some banks deploy fascia mounted devices over the card-reader to prevent fraudsters attaching their own. other functions include jitter, ie when your card is taken in, half way out then back in again. this is supposed to prevent anything attached to the card-reader from getting a clean read of the card's mag-stripe.
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You know it makes sense.
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fascinating. You learn something new every day from snowheads. When I first saw the thread title the first thing that came into my head was a frisbee.
(and this isn't a clever joke, by the way - it really was!)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Damn looked at this thread thinking it was a device allowing me to skim pebbles with enhanced proficiency down the beach
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FAQ
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) everything seems to be in order....(The only shock in the list of transactions being the cost of Mrs MA's recent hairdo....But she's worth it 
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. Lesson learned.
