Poster: A snowHead
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Just how much meaning do people attach to Snow Depths given by resorts? If we take the SAIS measurement from the Coire Cas run on Sunday on CairnGorm the depth is 250cm.
Do you have any idea where resorts you're watching reports for measure their snow depths, to what extent is it average depths over various sites or is your chosen resort being very selective.
Are these figures of any worth or are they just completely irrelevant to the quality of riding on offer. Discuss.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Above 50-70cm I think they are largely irrelevant for on-piste skiing. Of much greater interest is what the snow condition is, eg icy, hardpack, packed powder, fresh, etc. The condition is closely related to date of last snowfall rather than the depth.
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rob@rar, I agree. Snow depths can however be useful to compare one year with another and to look at trends through a season. But only if they are honestly recorded and not seen as an adjunct to the marketing dept.
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Alan I'd guess snowheads maybe more informed "snow users".
When I was younger, more naiive and not as experienced I used to put a lot of importance on "snow depth", when the only link to the snow was the Ceefax snow depth reports!!
I'd guess other less informed skiers may also pay alot of attention to it.
regards,
Greg
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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A three-part report of snowdepth + coverage + snow quality would be the optimum solution.
I am surprised no website has set this up yet.
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Winterhighland,
What is SAIS?
I agree that 70+ is all good. However when resorts build up 3m bases, surley that can mean a great end of season?
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johnboy wrote: |
when resorts build up 3m bases, surley that can mean a great end of season? |
What if the top metre is boilerplate? The time to check snow conditions for end of season skiing is at the end of the season.
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However when resorts build up 3m bases, surley that can mean a great end of season? |
Well, obviously better than a very thin base, but I was surprised that the great depth of snow in April 2006 didn't seem to make a big difference to conditions. At 1500 - 2000m we were skiing, in very warm temperatures, in very springlike conditions despite the huge depths of snow underneath the top few inches we were skiing on. Slope aspect made far more difference than snow depth.
I'm only talking about piste skiing, by the way. I don't know what the impact on off piste would be. I'd be interested to hear from people who do know, though.
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johnboy, SAIS= "Sportscotland Avalanche Information Service"
here is a link to there cairngorm blog:-
http://saisncairngorms.blogspot.com/
There was enough snow today to ski almost anywhere off the top of the goose tow down the the bottom of it. I'm guessing the depths varied from 70cm (to cover some of the larger rocks on the goose) upto several meters in the gully itself. It was reassuring that with such bad visibility at some times today that you weren’t going to hit something unexpected.
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Put it this way....in the winter of 98/99 we had 300cm bottom and 500cm at the top in La Plagne for most of the season. It meant that even when it was 17c the conditions stayed superb in the hot april weeks. Then it went really cold again and when the resort closed I think we still had 250cm at the base....happy days...
Off piste there was the most incredible conditions and i'd settle for that every year!
pam w, Offpiste conditions make a huge difference when you have massive bases. Coverage for a start. This year is terrible in that respect in Tignes...rocks all over the place and whole spines with no snow due to high winds...when you have a 300cm base it really helps !
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Alex A wrote: |
pam w, Offpiste conditions make a huge difference when you have massive bases. Coverage for a start. This year is terrible in that respect in Tignes...rocks all over the place and whole spines with no snow due to high winds...when you have a 300cm base it really helps ! |
You've got me worried - I'm heading out to the Tarantaise soon to ski off piste. Is the whole area like that?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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snowball, No, but there has been a lot of high winds, the first 15 days of January were all windy, when I left La Rosiere on Sunday it was blowing hard again.
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