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After ISIA has agreed to offer two levels of stamp. The current ISIA rating will be known as RED and will allow an instructor to teach within a ski school worldwide. The new higher rating will be a BLACK which will be similar to an ISTD and will include a version of the Eurotest and the European Mountain Safety course. ISIA Black teachers will be able to ply their trade independently or within a school.
The interesting rumour going around is that as the French have signed up to this the ESF recons that anyone with an ISIA red license will be able to teach within any ski school in France. At the moment only certain schools with "training centre status" can employe instructors without an ISTD and you have a limited amount of time until you achieve your ISTD.
The rumour i heard is that the ESF seems to be relunctantly accepting the fact that this WILL happen and wages will fall for ISTD's but on the plus side ISIA red level instructors will be able to work in any schools without a time limit.
Anyone heard anything on this subject?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Not heard about about ESF accepting the validity of the Red badge; I'll ask one of the NewGen guys this weekend. Would be good (for me, at least) if true 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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skimottaret,
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| Anyone heard anything on this subject? |
Bumped into Shaun Langmuir (BASI training manager) today in Val D and were discussing qualifications/exemptions with him. He didn't mention anything about ISIA red/black, although if it has not been finally agreed he probably wouldn't.
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sorry i wasnt clear but the Red/black is still a work in progress without a definate launch date but the word i got was once it is in place and effective in a year or so then current ISIA's will be good to teach in france....
rob@rar, would be a good thing eh?
stewart woodward, did Shaun have any tidbits on qualifications/exemptions worth mentioning?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| skimottaret wrote: |
| rob@rar, would be a good thing eh? |
Yes, although I might be over-presumptuous in assuming that I'll actually get to ISIA standard 
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So does the Black ISIA replace the ISTD or does that still continue? Does seem a bit strange to maintain to similar level qualifications. Probably tough enough for the general public distinguishing at present between an ISIA and ISTD, so adding another will make it even more confusing.
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| skimottaret wrote: |
stewart woodward, did Shaun have any tidbits on qualifications/exemptions worth mentioning? |
Yes Train hard & pass all your exams 
Last week in Val D the ISTD Teaching courses had a pass rate of 100% (16/16)
This week i hear the pass rate for ISTD Technical is 50% (16/32) a lot higher than normal but a lot of the guys/girls have been training hard since the autumn.
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GrahamN, the black ISIA would replace ISTD as I understand it.
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skimottaret, rob@rar,
I can't see fully qualified nationals accepting the same rates of pay as ISIA black's
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rob@rar, that would make sense...so it can't be right  .
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| stewart woodward wrote: |
skimottaret, rob@rar,
I can't see fully qualified nationals accepting the same rates of pay as ISIA black's |
I agree, so I'm not holding my breath on this happening any time soon.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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This is my understanding. ISTD is the top level of BASI, ISIA is a totally different organisation, that BASI are members of. ISTD will not be replaced by ISIA Black, the Black will be granted as a consequence of holding ISTD, just like the ISIA Red will be awarded for holding BASI Ski Teacher.
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stewart woodward, do you know if Erica or Gordy made it through on the 1 tech?
Ive been training hard in the MK fridge does that count...
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Spyderman, your view is correct as far as i heard as well. the minimum standard for Black will be similar as a BASI ISTD but the minimum standards to qualify have yet to be decided. The eurogroup countries have pretty similar standards but who knows...
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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stewart woodward, Massive 15 degree steeps, bumps yes, i run over kids all the time and sometimes they open the doors if it gets too cold so we do get variable weather conditions
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