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Hi
We're going to Les Arcs in March with our baby who will only be 8 months old. I'm dreading trying to push a buggy through the snow. I know I've seen babies in sledges being pulled around, but I imagine she'll be a bit too young for that?? Any ideas / suggestions? Also clothing suggestions welcome.
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Actually I have another question too. Do you bring a car seat for the coach from the airport?
Cheers
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rear mounted baby carrier (like a rucksack). if she can sit up unaided then it will be fine. we have two kids - one who is 4 and one who is 16 months. the eldest has been going skiing with us since he was 8 months. we have jsut returned from St anton and carried our youngest in the carrier. he is a heavy lad and we only just managed it so next year i hope he will walk. at 8 months old you will be fine. we have a frame based carrier as its more sturdy and has a medium sized pouch/bag suitable for nappies/wipes etc. sledge is ok for short journeys but hard work. baby carrier much more sensible - just make sure you wear a decent pair of walking boots.
clothing - all in one baby suit keeps them warm. we use ordinary clothes that they would wear in the Uk in the winter plus the ski suit in place of the coat. mittens not gloves - preferably get ones that are lined so there are two layers of material. we also put the kids in tights if its really cold - underneath their trousers to act like thermal underwear. although my eldest had a paddy and we had to tell him they were special ski underwear but then he is nearly 5 - at 8 months i dont think you will have any argument !!!
you are welcome to borrow our baby carrier if you are anywhere near us. we live in lincoln and have family in south yorkshire.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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when i was skiing in a ski school in alp d huez i was just about to enter the tunnel on the tunnel run and noticed another skier about to do the run with a baby in one of those rucksack things that backhojo has mentioned. I pointed this out to my instructor, who then told the skiier off and sent him back down the mountain in the gondola. Even though she told him off in french i could guess what she was saying!! I couldnt beleive that someone would attempt to ski with a baby in a rucksack especially on the tunnel!
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Thanks, I'll look into the carrier. I do have a normal front one, but not sure if it will still be big enough by then. Would you also wear one of these on a coach, instead of car seat? Will definitely not be wearing her while I ski! Thats what my sister will be there for - baby sitting. 
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3 wheeled pushchairs tend to be easier to manage.....as for the carseat.....we always drive to the resort so cant answer the bus question however, on the plane unless you have booked a seat specifically for baby at an adult price they tend to sit on your knee so i should imagine they expect you to do the same on the transfer.....may be worth asking your tour op though as i know i would be happier with a seat especially the way some of them bus drivers whizz around!
hannah
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daveqpr, Omigod! I can't believe your post, how could anybody be so stupid? I think it ranks with the woman who decided to dry off her toy poodle in the microwave. 
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zoe,Some Intersports/other ski shops will rent Mountain Buggys the sturdy three wheelers made in New Zealand although I have no specific knowledge of Les Arcs. It would also be worth mailing the tourist office too to see if they make any kind of provision or can offer help. Some high sided sledges wil be ok but I'd take a push chair liner with you, the fur lined type (Cozy toes?). Good luck
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When walking, I would rather fall forwards with a kid in front of me in a sling, knowing I could put my arms out or roll, than fall over backwards with a child in a back mounted framed carrier, where their heads are often also quite high and the kid is very likely to cushion your landing. At 8 months a forwards sling is doable. They also keep you nice and warm!
Just a personal view.
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When we stayed in Lapland, all the parents used sledges for their babies and small children. We bought one for less than £10 while we were out there and brought it back as hand luggage  The Lappish pad theirs out with reindeer skins and the babies are just snuggled in quite happily.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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We took our buggy to St Anton last year (normal 4 wheel buggy) - it was fine round resort as most of the roads and paths were kept clear. If they weren't clear, then it was generally packed snow and the buggy 'coped' ok. A 3 wheeler would've been better no doubt (but not particularly necessary), and the Nursery staff had the big 3 wheeler double buggys to take the kids out during the day. I thought about taking the back pack, but I was already lugging around too much stuff.
Of course, if theres a big dump, you're going to struggle with a buggy. But you can still carry baby on your shoulders, and realistically HOW much hiking around are you going to do... we went for lunch a couple of times, took baby swimming and on the gondola to show him the moutain, none of which required much getting about...
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Thanks for all the advice. I contacted the tour operator in case you're interested, about the car seat issue. Apparantly, car seats are NOT allowed on coaches in France. Wierd.
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You know it makes sense.
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zoe, you have a small baby, just accept the fact that your life is now over for 20 odd years and stay at home... 
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| car seats are NOT allowed on coaches in France. Wierd. |
not really weird. Without the means to anchor it, the car seat would become a lethal weapon in a crash, or even an emergency stop, especially for the baby who had been sat in it.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| daveqpr wrote: |
| I couldnt beleive that someone would attempt to ski with a baby in a rucksack especially on the tunnel! |
odd isn't it? I know someone who ski tours with his baby but there was a case in the local paper of a bloke who did the VB with his baby son in a rucksack last year, the baby had to have his hands and feet amputated due to frost bite.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Firstly, people who ski with babies in ruck sacks on their backs make me sick - selfish, utterly irresponsible, dangerous...it makes me so angry! Unfortunately you do seem to see plenty of people doing it, despite the fact that many babies have frozen to death!
My little boy is nearly 16 months now. I travel out to resorts a lot with him. I've never taken a car seat with me, I think it's been mentioned above that if there are no seat belts in the coach then the car seat is not allowed. I usually take my bendy cushion with me and he sits comfortably on that (if he'll sit still at all). A buggy has always been enough - back packs are fantastic too but you probably won't do that much hiking around...and a buggy, I find, is always more useful and manages ok in the snow if you sort of drag it backwards behind you!
Your lift is far from over!! Get out there as often as you can! Once your little one is walking they LOVE it and sledges come into their own - so by next winter you're sorted 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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in answer to your question about clothes we took ours at 5 months old, we had a normal winter all in one....i always put tights on underneath or even a babygro and a pair of socks on top...as well as the usual vest and a top and trousers.....she was very snug in her buggy anyway....last year she was 14 months and it was quite hot in the sun...she got too hot in a ski hat so she wore a summer hat and sunglasses to protect her eyes....these boots were fantastic and well worth every penny http://www.littletrekkers.co.uk/shop/index.php/flypage/897/074f68cecb26bd8e69d093666db302e2
hannah
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| Hullite wrote: |
| daveqpr, Omigod! I can't believe your post, how could anybody be so stupid? I think it ranks with the woman who decided to dry off her toy poodle in the microwave. |
what's silly about drying toy poodles in microwaves??
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take a sling / front facing carrier- and or a hippychick thing and a 3 wheeler- Montain Buggy very good.
Either hire a car (hire a car seat or take your own) or go on a coach and hold child in lap- no car seats.
Ignore thread on long distance flights / the horrors of children- (quite a few snowheads have Victorian / Edwardian attitudes)
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zoe, for a baby carrier the best option is one called an Ergo New Generation Baby Carrier. I have tried loads of slings/carriers etc and this is the most versatile by far. It is a 'soft' rucksack style carrier but has no frame so it is much less bulky for packing. You can stuff it into your hand luggage bag easily when you are not using it. you can carry baby on your front, back or hip with it, it is very versatile. I used it for my 12month old on my front and we were both comfy and kept each other warm! Now he is 3 I still use it occasionally with him on my back. It will carry a child up to about age 5. Google it, they are about 40-50quid but well worth it.
If you have a travel system then I would take your car seat if it's one of the infant carrier type that will clip on your pushchair. Very useful for using as a chair for little one whilst away. Also you may find the transfer coach has belts in which case you can use it. On our transfer coach there were belts and so we used it no problems and it was long transfer too we were glad of it!
Pushchair is useful for airport in case of delays for sleeping. If it won't push in resort just stow it and use the carrier.
TKMaxx have a lot of nice all-in-one baby suits in at the moment.
HTH a bit.
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bit about pushchairs being useful at airports is very true.
especially at Geneva departure lounge- where there are no seats at all- even if your kids walk a bit the buggy can be useful for all the stuff you take- unless you are really ruthless about handluggage- which is the best way- do you really all need so many fleeces/coats?
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